> Then we are in disagreement What disagreement? I did not even make any statements or expressed opinion on whether it's good (whatever that might mean) that e

> Then we are in disagreement What disagreement? I did not even make any statements or expressed opinion on whether it's good (whatever that might mean) that everyone has a voice (at least in my reply to you). I simply asked: > By what mechanism should we take or deny someone a voice? Without that we are simply daydreaming about how everything would be better if only things were better. Which is OK, just not very useful if you stop there.