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FWIW, I have yet to find a job in NY with a non-unlimited policy that gave more than 10 days combined PTO plus a handful of holidays. Tho at places with unlimi
by cimmanom 8y ago
FWIW, I have yet to find a job in NY with a non-unlimited policy that gave more than 10 days combined PTO plus a handful of holidays.
Tho at places with unlimited at least you can usually justify taking 3 weeks plus sick days even if 2 is the norm.
Maybe workaholism is just more common here than in other areas?
- zdragnar 8y agoMaybe it's my level of experience? I've been in the industry over 12 years now, with some variation of senior / staff / principle title for I think 8 of those years. No idea what the market is like in NY, but I would imagine you could also pretty easily negotiate starting with 2.5 or maybe 3 weeks. Just like the list of requirements are a guideline, so too are perks offered on job postings, and you don't actually have to settle for what they first offer you. So long as the labor market for programming is hot, you should take advantage of it.
- cimmanom 8y agoFWIW, I’ve been in the industry even longer than that. And yes, senior developers have the leverage to sometimes negotiate for more. But that doesn’t mean it’s not the most common policy or that most people (especially those in less in-demand occupations) aren’t stuck with it. Nor that it doesn’t influence how people interpret unlimited-PTO policies. As for me, most of the 10-day-PTO gigs were earlier in my career (startups seem to almost universally opt for “unlimited”). Going into the most recent one, I had other priorities to negotiate for. But mostly, the way we think about time off and work/life balance in the US bites.