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Reddit is now suspect, after the major investment from PRC. I no longer visit there... I wonder if the 50 cent party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_P

Reddit is now suspect, after the major investment from PRC. I no longer visit there... I wonder if the 50 cent party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party is going to be involved in hacker news anytime soon...

yumraj 8y ago
Why do you think it's not involved already? Just look at any post critical of China and CCP and the new account comments and the whataboutism pointing to US that follows.
- dang 8y ago
  Please don't break the site guidelines by insinuating astroturfing without evidence. Despite the countless accusations people have posted, we've never found any evidence of that on political topics—and we've looked closely. Meanwhile it's a toxic trope that poisons discussion, one that arises for psychological reasons rather than factual ones. I've specifically written about this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19485935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19485935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19403438 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19403438 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19404162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19404162 That last link is an example of how these accusations hurt the community and individuals. Plenty more explanation here for anyone who wants it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturfing https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....
throwaway8508 8y ago
Wow, the 59 cent part looks like the Chinese version of Operation Earnest Voice, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice
- peisistratos 8y ago
  I (an American) ran into this. Centcom was (is?) doing things like whitewashing the No Gun Ri massacre on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Gun_Ri&diff=18591944&oldid=18403374 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Gun_Ri&diff=185... . That IP used to resolve to n-mnstci-142.mnstci.iraq.centcom.mil . In my spare time I add information to Wikipedia, then I am taxed and some propaganda minister in the military, being paid by my taxes, gets rid of what I said and does some Orwellian rewrite if history. These Chinese efforts seem skin to what the US government has been doing.
- rum3 8y ago
  The Chinese propaganda machine is definitely way bigger unless they have some really nice AI. Funny how your account is pretty much a Chinese bot stereotype.
  - dang 8y ago
    This breaks the site guideline against insinuations of astroturfing. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't do that on HN. More explanation and links in this post upthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538691.

yumraj 8y ago

Why do you think it's not involved already? Just look at any post critical of China and CCP and the new account comments and the whataboutism pointing to US that follows.

dang 8y ago
Please don't break the site guidelines by insinuating astroturfing without evidence. Despite the countless accusations people have posted, we've never found any evidence of that on political topics—and we've looked closely. Meanwhile it's a toxic trope that poisons discussion, one that arises for psychological reasons rather than factual ones. I've specifically written about this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19485935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19485935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19403438 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19403438 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19404162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19404162 That last link is an example of how these accusations hurt the community and individuals. Plenty more explanation here for anyone who wants it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturfing https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....

throwaway8508 8y ago

Wow, the 59 cent part looks like the Chinese version of Operation Earnest Voice, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

peisistratos 8y ago
I (an American) ran into this. Centcom was (is?) doing things like whitewashing the No Gun Ri massacre on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Gun_Ri&diff=18591944&oldid=18403374 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Gun_Ri&diff=185... . That IP used to resolve to n-mnstci-142.mnstci.iraq.centcom.mil . In my spare time I add information to Wikipedia, then I am taxed and some propaganda minister in the military, being paid by my taxes, gets rid of what I said and does some Orwellian rewrite if history. These Chinese efforts seem skin to what the US government has been doing.
rum3 8y ago
The Chinese propaganda machine is definitely way bigger unless they have some really nice AI. Funny how your account is pretty much a Chinese bot stereotype.
- dang 8y ago
  This breaks the site guideline against insinuations of astroturfing. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't do that on HN. More explanation and links in this post upthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538691.