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> 2. Such people usually include residential ip subnets by default, for no technical reason whatsoever. Are you talking about residential or about dynamic? Bec

> 2. Such people usually include residential ip subnets by default, for no technical reason whatsoever. Are you talking about residential or about dynamic? Because there kinda is a reason for this for dynamic addresses (PC malware sending spam, and the impossibility to list the particular affected PC because it's constantly changing addreses, so you only can block all the addresses those PCs could be using). If you do have static addresses, whether residential or not, those should not be listed in dialup block lists. If your home internet connection has dynamic addresses, you still can run your mail server at home by renting some tiny VPS and tunneling its addresses to your home server ...

znpy 8y ago
> If you do have static addresses, whether residential or not, those should not be listed in dialup block lists. Indeed my residential internet connection has a static address but it still gets flagged for spam because it’s inside a residential subnet.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
  > because it’s inside a residential subnet. As in? I mean, what makes it a "residential subnet"? Have you tried talking to your ISP about this?
  - znpy 8y ago
    The problem is not on my isp side. It’s on the spamlist side.
nothrabannosir 8y ago
Where do you rent the VPS? Example from personal experience: Yahoo and Hotmail block DigitalOcean IPs outright. At least they have the decency to reject your mail at delivery, not spamhole it. Practical DIY SMTP is a lost battle. Unless you're in it for the experience of the hosting itself.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
  > Where do you rent the VPS? Example from personal experience: Yahoo and Hotmail block DigitalOcean IPs outright. At least they have the decency to reject your mail at delivery, not spamhole it. Any one of the thousands of VPS hosters that are not one of the half dozen huge "cloud server" companies? > Practical DIY SMTP is a lost battle. Unless you're in it for the experience of the hosting itself. No, it's very much not, it works perfectly fine. Or at least well enough--arguably, you should be able to send directly from dialup hosts with a well-established domain and SPF, so things aren't as good as they could be, but far from what some people claim.

znpy 8y ago

> If you do have static addresses, whether residential or not, those should not be listed in dialup block lists. Indeed my residential internet connection has a static address but it still gets flagged for spam because it’s inside a residential subnet.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
> because it’s inside a residential subnet. As in? I mean, what makes it a "residential subnet"? Have you tried talking to your ISP about this?
- znpy 8y ago
  The problem is not on my isp side. It’s on the spamlist side.

nothrabannosir 8y ago

Where do you rent the VPS? Example from personal experience: Yahoo and Hotmail block DigitalOcean IPs outright. At least they have the decency to reject your mail at delivery, not spamhole it. Practical DIY SMTP is a lost battle. Unless you're in it for the experience of the hosting itself.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
> Where do you rent the VPS? Example from personal experience: Yahoo and Hotmail block DigitalOcean IPs outright. At least they have the decency to reject your mail at delivery, not spamhole it. Any one of the thousands of VPS hosters that are not one of the half dozen huge "cloud server" companies? > Practical DIY SMTP is a lost battle. Unless you're in it for the experience of the hosting itself. No, it's very much not, it works perfectly fine. Or at least well enough--arguably, you should be able to send directly from dialup hosts with a well-established domain and SPF, so things aren't as good as they could be, but far from what some people claim.