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> I would love a de-centralized web, but it is pretty hard to go back. As the powers that be continue to centralize and exert control in a negative way, I have

by rannug 8y ago

> I would love a de-centralized web, but it is pretty hard to go back. As the powers that be continue to centralize and exert control in a negative way, I have a feeling the pendulum will swing the other way once people get annoyed with it. Kids are already using VPNs to circumvent controls. Need to make a cyberpunk-esque decentralization kit for the next generation to adopt.

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bo1024 8y ago
That would be really cool! I feel like one of the surprisingly-big barriers is just the difficulty of geting a static IP address assigned to your home. If you could do that, then (I think) they could run everything from a Raspberry Pi: their own website, hosting their own email, etc etc. (It's actually not much harder technically to set this all up on a VPS, but then the kid has to put a monthly fee on a card -- probably a big barrier for parents.) Am I right, or is there an easy way to get around the static IP issue?
- rannug 8y ago
  I don't have a static IP at home. It changes every few weeks. I have a hack where a cron job uploads my home IP to a cloud server so I can know what it is when the IP changes. Maybe a Distributed Hash Table DNS interface is in order? I think it could work if you cache your peers, and reach out to let them know your current state. Even during the Venezuela blackouts, not all IPs went dark.
  - bo1024 8y ago
    That would be really cool! The question I see is how to handle resolutions where two people both claim to be example.com. Maybe you could use some cryptography to make sure it's always whoever first claims a domain.
  - jlgaddis 8y ago
    > I have a hack where a cron job uploads my home IP to a cloud server so I can know what it is when the IP changes. I don't have a clue what a "Distributed Hash Table DNS interface" is, but I'll note that a solution [0] to this problem has been around for over two decades. [0]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2136 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2136
- johnny22 8y ago
  If you don't have distributed backups handled, then you're just putting most users in a worse situation. Now they can lose important parts of their digital life in one disk crash.
  - bo1024 8y ago
    Great point, though I'd point out backups don't have to be distributed or cloud-based. I was thinking it would be interesting to have a protocol (probably built on bittorrent) that encrypts your data and backs it up onto other's servers in return for storing some of their encrypted backups on yours.

by rannug 8y ago

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bo1024 8y ago

That would be really cool! I feel like one of the surprisingly-big barriers is just the difficulty of geting a static IP address assigned to your home. If you could do that, then (I think) they could run everything from a Raspberry Pi: their own website, hosting their own email, etc etc. (It's actually not much harder technically to set this all up on a VPS, but then the kid has to put a monthly fee on a card -- probably a big barrier for parents.) Am I right, or is there an easy way to get around the static IP issue?

rannug 8y ago
I don't have a static IP at home. It changes every few weeks. I have a hack where a cron job uploads my home IP to a cloud server so I can know what it is when the IP changes. Maybe a Distributed Hash Table DNS interface is in order? I think it could work if you cache your peers, and reach out to let them know your current state. Even during the Venezuela blackouts, not all IPs went dark.
- bo1024 8y ago
  That would be really cool! The question I see is how to handle resolutions where two people both claim to be example.com. Maybe you could use some cryptography to make sure it's always whoever first claims a domain.
- jlgaddis 8y ago
  > I have a hack where a cron job uploads my home IP to a cloud server so I can know what it is when the IP changes. I don't have a clue what a "Distributed Hash Table DNS interface" is, but I'll note that a solution [0] to this problem has been around for over two decades. [0]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2136 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2136
johnny22 8y ago
If you don't have distributed backups handled, then you're just putting most users in a worse situation. Now they can lose important parts of their digital life in one disk crash.
- bo1024 8y ago
  Great point, though I'd point out backups don't have to be distributed or cloud-based. I was thinking it would be interesting to have a protocol (probably built on bittorrent) that encrypts your data and backs it up onto other's servers in return for storing some of their encrypted backups on yours.