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Of course, celestial navigation doesn't work in the daytime. It also seem weird to write an article aimed at readers who have never heard of it, but not mention

Of course, celestial navigation doesn't work in the daytime. It also seem weird to write an article aimed at readers who have never heard of it, but not mention the existence of terrain contour matching, which is widely used on cruise missiles and works any time of day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

oh_sigh 8y ago
Sure it does - consider that the sun is a celestial object. Sailors for hundreds of years have been shooting a noon sight.
- khuey 8y ago
  A noon sight works at noon. The vast majority of daytime is not noon.
  - yardie 8y ago
    A noonsite is just the base reference. Once you’ve done that and compared it in the table you have your position. Any site after that is the delta until the next noonsite.
the8472 8y ago
> Of course, celestial navigation doesn't work in the daytime. Even with a simple sextant you can use the sun. And the SR71's system did operate during daytime using starlight.
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- ams6110 8y ago
  I was wondering about that. I guess at the altitudes the SR71 operated at, at least the brighter stars would be visible.
  - the8472 8y ago
    They don't have to be visible to the human eyes, just visible to instruments. With band filters and a narrow field of view you can get a stronger signal that sticks out from the the approximately uniform sky background. I mean the altitude helps, but it's not necessary.
bartwe 8y ago
Do they fly high enough that atmospheric scattering and brightness become small enough to still use it ?
ridgeguy 8y ago
Celestial navigation works in the daytime. Star tracking was part of the SR-71 G&C system. The stellar inertial platform was aligned preflight with the aircraft at rest. Day or night made no matter. It had many initialization modes, at least one of which required tracking two stars within 5 minutes. It's alluded to at [1]. [1] https://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/4/4-40.php https://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/4/4-40.php
- jessriedel 8y ago
  Thanks for the correction. Does the point still stand with regard to cloud cover?

oh_sigh 8y ago

Sure it does - consider that the sun is a celestial object. Sailors for hundreds of years have been shooting a noon sight.

khuey 8y ago
A noon sight works at noon. The vast majority of daytime is not noon.
- yardie 8y ago
  A noonsite is just the base reference. Once you’ve done that and compared it in the table you have your position. Any site after that is the delta until the next noonsite.

the8472 8y ago

> Of course, celestial navigation doesn't work in the daytime. Even with a simple sextant you can use the sun. And the SR71's system did operate during daytime using starlight.

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ams6110 8y ago
I was wondering about that. I guess at the altitudes the SR71 operated at, at least the brighter stars would be visible.
- the8472 8y ago
  They don't have to be visible to the human eyes, just visible to instruments. With band filters and a narrow field of view you can get a stronger signal that sticks out from the the approximately uniform sky background. I mean the altitude helps, but it's not necessary.

bartwe 8y ago

Do they fly high enough that atmospheric scattering and brightness become small enough to still use it ?

ridgeguy 8y ago

Celestial navigation works in the daytime. Star tracking was part of the SR-71 G&C system. The stellar inertial platform was aligned preflight with the aircraft at rest. Day or night made no matter. It had many initialization modes, at least one of which required tracking two stars within 5 minutes. It's alluded to at [1]. [1] https://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/4/4-40.php https://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/4/4-40.php

jessriedel 8y ago
Thanks for the correction. Does the point still stand with regard to cloud cover?