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"According to news outlet Nikkei, the name-picking process has been rehearsed at least once a year for over 30 years, so officials are always primed for "The Da

"According to news outlet Nikkei, the name-picking process has been rehearsed at least once a year for over 30 years, so officials are always primed for "The Day"." I don't even care how inefficient this seems to Western sensibilities ... I love this.

hudibras 8y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens...
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  My undergraduate school that I won't name was located on a 'land locked ship' in Canada. It was literally land, but commissioned and christened in the Royal Navy as a ship in the 19th century. When they closed it, they had no idea what to do, and the Canadian Navy had to call up the Royal Navy to figure out the protocol. They didn't know either. So they had to dig through their own records to figure out the right protocol. And then we did it: a 'ship decomisioning ceremony' for a land-locked ship, which I don't think has been done in a very long time in the UK/Empire, and probably never in Canada. Pretty much the entire W. Coast Canadian Navy 'paraded by' ship by ship, and a few other neat things. A sight to behold. Someone, somewhere is keeping track of all that. The interesting paradox is how from one perspective, it makes no sense, and yet from another, it makes perfect sense.
  - stan_rogers 8y ago
    That sounds odd to me - more than one stone frigate in the RCN has been paid off in living memory, more than one during the unification process (which is within my memory). Yes, it's a bit of a ceremony, and necessarily a kerfuffle, but there is no reason why the protocol should have been a mystery.
    - coldacid 8y ago
      My guess is that with the restoration of name and insignia of the Royal Canadian Navy, various traditions that had been dropped or elided from unification onwards were also brought back. Paying off of stone frigates probably changed in ceremony like so many other things did with unification of the forces, and so the modern RCN had to look up the traditional ways again.
  - vram22 8y ago
    >My undergraduate school that I won't name was located on a 'land locked ship' in Canada. It was literally land, but commissioned and christened in the Royal Navy as a ship in the 19th century. Interesting. Near Pune in India, there is a training institute of the Indian Navy called INS Shivaji (INS = Indian Naval Ship). I was surprised by the name when I first heard about it. Seems like the same custom as the one you mention. https://www.indiannavy.nic.in/insshivaji/ https://www.indiannavy.nic.in/insshivaji/
knight17 8y ago
See https://www.japanfs.org/en/news/archives/news_id034293.html https://www.japanfs.org/en/news/archives/news_id034293.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shrine-has-been-torn-down-and-rebuilt-every-20-years-for-the-past-millennium-575558/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shri... In many western countries many important traditional skills has been lost by the advent of technology. Either new materials and methods have been employed or many parts has been automated away or outsourced, therefore I love this instance from Japan where they rebuild a wooden temple once every 20 years so that many generations of artisans can work on the project together and pass on the knowledge: “I saw one elderly person who probably has experienced these events three or four times saying to young people who perhaps participated in the event as children last time, ‘I will leave these duties to you next time,’”

hudibras 8y ago

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens...

sonnyblarney 8y ago
My undergraduate school that I won't name was located on a 'land locked ship' in Canada. It was literally land, but commissioned and christened in the Royal Navy as a ship in the 19th century. When they closed it, they had no idea what to do, and the Canadian Navy had to call up the Royal Navy to figure out the protocol. They didn't know either. So they had to dig through their own records to figure out the right protocol. And then we did it: a 'ship decomisioning ceremony' for a land-locked ship, which I don't think has been done in a very long time in the UK/Empire, and probably never in Canada. Pretty much the entire W. Coast Canadian Navy 'paraded by' ship by ship, and a few other neat things. A sight to behold. Someone, somewhere is keeping track of all that. The interesting paradox is how from one perspective, it makes no sense, and yet from another, it makes perfect sense.
- stan_rogers 8y ago
  That sounds odd to me - more than one stone frigate in the RCN has been paid off in living memory, more than one during the unification process (which is within my memory). Yes, it's a bit of a ceremony, and necessarily a kerfuffle, but there is no reason why the protocol should have been a mystery.
  - coldacid 8y ago
    My guess is that with the restoration of name and insignia of the Royal Canadian Navy, various traditions that had been dropped or elided from unification onwards were also brought back. Paying off of stone frigates probably changed in ceremony like so many other things did with unification of the forces, and so the modern RCN had to look up the traditional ways again.
- vram22 8y ago
  >My undergraduate school that I won't name was located on a 'land locked ship' in Canada. It was literally land, but commissioned and christened in the Royal Navy as a ship in the 19th century. Interesting. Near Pune in India, there is a training institute of the Indian Navy called INS Shivaji (INS = Indian Naval Ship). I was surprised by the name when I first heard about it. Seems like the same custom as the one you mention. https://www.indiannavy.nic.in/insshivaji/ https://www.indiannavy.nic.in/insshivaji/

knight17 8y ago

See https://www.japanfs.org/en/news/archives/news_id034293.html https://www.japanfs.org/en/news/archives/news_id034293.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shrine-has-been-torn-down-and-rebuilt-every-20-years-for-the-past-millennium-575558/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shri... In many western countries many important traditional skills has been lost by the advent of technology. Either new materials and methods have been employed or many parts has been automated away or outsourced, therefore I love this instance from Japan where they rebuild a wooden temple once every 20 years so that many generations of artisans can work on the project together and pass on the knowledge: “I saw one elderly person who probably has experienced these events three or four times saying to young people who perhaps participated in the event as children last time, ‘I will leave these duties to you next time,’”