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Isn't that backwards? To me it seems like this change will mostly hurt walled gardens, but won't hurt the participative internet (personal websites).

Brotkrumen 8y ago
Participative internet includes more than just personal websites. Small forums, comment sections anywhere, fanfic, fanart, satire, etc., all will have to shut down if they have no way of avoiding legal liability for user generated content. Doesn't even matter if it's fair use, as the legal process is ruinous. The big walled gardens will have bulk licenses, the small fry and start ups will die because they can't afford those licenses.
- cousin_it 8y ago
  Small forums and comment sections can moderate themselves, no?
  - Brotkrumen 8y ago
    Sure. "Small" being of course up until, say, 100 posts a day? So you just need to hire a guy that is current on all legislation and court cases related to copyright in all states so he can determine fair use. That's probably not a problem since you'd provide him with a comprehensive database containing all copyrighted material ( audio, text, visual, computer code) and an algorithm that detects legal equivalents of these materials in your forum in real time.
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  - bo1024 8y ago
    Not if "moderate" means that every user comment has to pass in front of a lawyer, or at least some paid moderator, before it's approved and posted. Obviously this is all speculation and depends on the wording of the law.
sametmax 8y ago
Unfortunatly no: - blogs can have several authors and shared responsibility - small sites have comment sections - forums and small contributive community websites are a very important part of the participative internet - small startups may very well create user content oriented innovative services And none of the above have the power to lawyer up enough, while GAFAM are experts at it.

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Isn't that backwards? To me it seems like this change will mostly hurt walled gardens, but won't hurt the participative internet (personal websites).

by cousin_it 8y ago

Brotkrumen 8y ago
Participative internet includes more than just personal websites. Small forums, comment sections anywhere, fanfic, fanart, satire, etc., all will have to shut down if they have no way of avoiding legal liability for user generated content. Doesn't even matter if it's fair use, as the legal process is ruinous. The big walled gardens will have bulk licenses, the small fry and start ups will die because they can't afford those licenses.
- cousin_it 8y ago
  Small forums and comment sections can moderate themselves, no?
  - Brotkrumen 8y ago
    Sure. "Small" being of course up until, say, 100 posts a day? So you just need to hire a guy that is current on all legislation and court cases related to copyright in all states so he can determine fair use. That's probably not a problem since you'd provide him with a comprehensive database containing all copyrighted material ( audio, text, visual, computer code) and an algorithm that detects legal equivalents of these materials in your forum in real time.
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  - bo1024 8y ago
    Not if "moderate" means that every user comment has to pass in front of a lawyer, or at least some paid moderator, before it's approved and posted. Obviously this is all speculation and depends on the wording of the law.
sametmax 8y ago
Unfortunatly no: - blogs can have several authors and shared responsibility - small sites have comment sections - forums and small contributive community websites are a very important part of the participative internet - small startups may very well create user content oriented innovative services And none of the above have the power to lawyer up enough, while GAFAM are experts at it.