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> there is no known learning environment that beats a university. I've tried university twice and left both times before getting a degree. We are utterly incom

> there is no known learning environment that beats a university. I've tried university twice and left both times before getting a degree. We are utterly incompatible, despite my grades being in the top 1% from an academic standpoint (And while attending my GPA was 4.0) I was headhunted in 1st year (the first time) and never looked back. I've come across many 'self motivated' coders like myself who thrive in all things IT, without needing to be spoonfed. > no theory and nuts-and-bolts fundamentals? I've done digital and electronics and full stack engineering, written compilers, embedded systems, 3D engines and modellers, etc, etc. I think that suffices as 'nuts and bolts'. I'm only yet to write my own OS. When hiring, I would basically ignore the degree and look at their work: their code and their ability to communicate their understanding of it. I think we live in two different worlds indeed! I'm more like OP and like getting down and dirty. I see problems (in the marketplace) and I make solutions - however they come whether it be JS or ASM.

MaxBarraclough 8y ago
> We are utterly incompatible, despite my grades being in the top 1% from an academic standpoint (And while attending my GPA was 4.0) It seems fairly clear then that you aren't representative. > When hiring, I would basically ignore the degree and look at their work: their code and their ability to communicate their understanding of it. This could well be a wise strategy. I'm not saying academic achievement is the best predictor of industry success - there are plenty of horror stories of seemingly impressive graduates failing fizzbuzz. It seems clear to me though that for many of us, a CS degree is the proper way to start one's tech career. > I'm more like OP and like getting down and dirty But you're clearly quite capable at working with advanced topics 'behind the code'. This can't be said of all professional programmers. There are plenty of code monkeys out there who don't even understand basic data-structures, let alone the concepts behind compilers and rendering engines.

MaxBarraclough 8y ago

> We are utterly incompatible, despite my grades being in the top 1% from an academic standpoint (And while attending my GPA was 4.0) It seems fairly clear then that you aren't representative. > When hiring, I would basically ignore the degree and look at their work: their code and their ability to communicate their understanding of it. This could well be a wise strategy. I'm not saying academic achievement is the best predictor of industry success - there are plenty of horror stories of seemingly impressive graduates failing fizzbuzz. It seems clear to me though that for many of us, a CS degree is the proper way to start one's tech career. > I'm more like OP and like getting down and dirty But you're clearly quite capable at working with advanced topics 'behind the code'. This can't be said of all professional programmers. There are plenty of code monkeys out there who don't even understand basic data-structures, let alone the concepts behind compilers and rendering engines.