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Tangentially related, there is a clip of the Brady Bunch [1] that anti-vaxxers like to share that shows how the attitude towards measles has changed. Is anyone

by spraak 8y ago

Tangentially related, there is a clip of the Brady Bunch [1] that anti-vaxxers like to share that shows how the attitude towards measles has changed. Is anyone here old enough to verify how true it is? It makes me wonder about the recent introduction of the chickenpox vaccine - will the mostly benign (but of course not without exceptions) chickenpox in later generations be seen as extremely dangerous? Also interesting - anti-vaxxers say that the chickenpox vaccine has increased the occurrences of shingles. I find it interesting but not sure about it all. [1] https://youtu.be/eR6NEv6yCEg https://youtu.be/eR6NEv6yCEg

eesmith 8y ago
Certainly attitudes towards risk have changed. In those days, most people didn't wear seat belts. Didn't even think of it. [0] Does that meant it was mostly benign then to not wear a seat belt? Does that mean it's needless now to worry about using seat belts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Complications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Complications points out that there is a fatality rate of about 0.3% in the US now. Riskier than driving, but still a 98% chance the entire family will live through it. If I were a parent then, I likely would not let the kids know that there was a 2 in 100 chance that one of them would die, but treat it I would any other illness. Note also that the shows says that reported symptoms include "slight fever", in that case 101.1 F, while https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/signs-symptoms.html https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/signs-symptoms.html says the symptoms typically begin with high fever. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/sympt... says "Over the next few days, the rash spreads down the arms and trunk, then over the thighs, lower legs and feet. At the same time, the fever rises sharply, often as high as 104 to 105.8 F (40 to 41 C)." It's almost as if you can't trust a sitcom for medical advice. Or advice on what to do with tiki gods. ([0] Marsha did insist that the driving test examiner put his seat belt on; something he originally did not do. But it's hard to find video clips of the show to figure out if they always put on their seat belts.)

by spraak 8y ago

eesmith 8y ago

Certainly attitudes towards risk have changed. In those days, most people didn't wear seat belts. Didn't even think of it. [0] Does that meant it was mostly benign then to not wear a seat belt? Does that mean it's needless now to worry about using seat belts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Complications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Complications points out that there is a fatality rate of about 0.3% in the US now. Riskier than driving, but still a 98% chance the entire family will live through it. If I were a parent then, I likely would not let the kids know that there was a 2 in 100 chance that one of them would die, but treat it I would any other illness. Note also that the shows says that reported symptoms include "slight fever", in that case 101.1 F, while https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/signs-symptoms.html https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/signs-symptoms.html says the symptoms typically begin with high fever. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/sympt... says "Over the next few days, the rash spreads down the arms and trunk, then over the thighs, lower legs and feet. At the same time, the fever rises sharply, often as high as 104 to 105.8 F (40 to 41 C)." It's almost as if you can't trust a sitcom for medical advice. Or advice on what to do with tiki gods. ([0] Marsha did insist that the driving test examiner put his seat belt on; something he originally did not do. But it's hard to find video clips of the show to figure out if they always put on their seat belts.)