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How do I get the compiler? ...or is this supposed to be the future of programming languages, compiler-as-a-service where you get a playground but not an actual

How do I get the compiler? ...or is this supposed to be the future of programming languages, compiler-as-a-service where you get a playground but not an actual compiler?

sanxiyn 8y ago
https://vlang.io/ https://vlang.io/ says "open source release in June 2019", so check back.
Matheus28 8y ago
Free: Limited to 1k lines of code Hobbyist ($29.99/user): Unlimited lines of code, no warning messages Pro ($99.99/user): Warning messages Enterprise (Contact us): Link to libraries
- wokwokwok 8y ago
  Huh. I thought the days when anyone seriously toyed with the idea that you could build a business selling a programming language (or perhaps compiler implementation?) were gone. Oh well, some interest -> zero interest, but hey, best of luck to them~
  - amedvednikov 8y ago
    Please tell me you are not serious :)
    - coldtea 8y ago
      They are not, and they're not helpful either. At least officially, the idea announced was that the language will be available (and open source) later in the summer. Hopefully this goes well, as the language makes some big promises that make it sound like vaporware, but at least we do have a playground accepting the syntax now.
      - wokwokwok 8y ago
        I’m not sure what you mean. I’m 100% serious; that’s a business model with no value in it, and they few vendors who have tried it in the past are all fading into obvilion. Getting adoption of a language is hard enough as it is (see the slow uptake of say, kotlin despite large scale corporate backing) making it a pay-to-use is just a dead end. How are you going to sustain the user growth for a paid product when better or equivalent free alternatives exist? How will you build an ecosystem when the core product is paid-to-use? If I’m paying to make something, I’m not giving it away for free. Not only that, it’s a proven failed business model see Borland for example. The few vendors that remain are for embedded devices. There are so many thing wrong with the idea it’s hard to know where to even start enumerating them. /shrug > They are not, and they're not helpful either. ...but please, don’t try to put words in my mouth, that’s just offensive. I am completely serious, and was in my previous comment too.
        amedvednikov 8y ago
        The comment you replied to was sarcasm. The language is free.
ilovecaching 8y ago
Just an FYI, the author is more than likely scamming for donations, or at the very least drumming up donations for vaporware/misleading software. He has as of yet refused to publish any source code for his language, despite having close to 2k stars. If you read my comments, you'll see that he claims to have detailed information on his website, but all he has listed is compilation targets, claimed benchmarks (or just benchmarks taken out of context), and unimplemented features. Based on what he's saying, he has essentially sold snake oil based on PL buzzwords via blog posts and HN, and has little more than the type of front end you can build going through an LLVM IR guide. This man might be telling the truth, but based on his behavior so far I would be exceedingly suspicious of anything he says until he has actually released source code or a full compiler.
- dang 8y ago
  You've posted over a dozen of these comments to this thread. That's massively over the top, regardless of how right your original point might have been. Please stop now.
coldtea 8y ago
It's supposed to be released later in the summer. There have already been 2-3 posts about the language mentioning that, and it also mentions it elsewhere in the site that hosts the playground.

How do I get the compiler? ...or is this supposed to be the future of programming languages, compiler-as-a-service where you get a playground but not an actual compiler?

sanxiyn 8y ago

https://vlang.io/ https://vlang.io/ says "open source release in June 2019", so check back.

Matheus28 8y ago

Free: Limited to 1k lines of code Hobbyist ($29.99/user): Unlimited lines of code, no warning messages Pro ($99.99/user): Warning messages Enterprise (Contact us): Link to libraries

wokwokwok 8y ago
Huh. I thought the days when anyone seriously toyed with the idea that you could build a business selling a programming language (or perhaps compiler implementation?) were gone. Oh well, some interest -> zero interest, but hey, best of luck to them~
- amedvednikov 8y ago
  Please tell me you are not serious :)
  - coldtea 8y ago
    They are not, and they're not helpful either. At least officially, the idea announced was that the language will be available (and open source) later in the summer. Hopefully this goes well, as the language makes some big promises that make it sound like vaporware, but at least we do have a playground accepting the syntax now.
    - wokwokwok 8y ago
      I’m not sure what you mean. I’m 100% serious; that’s a business model with no value in it, and they few vendors who have tried it in the past are all fading into obvilion. Getting adoption of a language is hard enough as it is (see the slow uptake of say, kotlin despite large scale corporate backing) making it a pay-to-use is just a dead end. How are you going to sustain the user growth for a paid product when better or equivalent free alternatives exist? How will you build an ecosystem when the core product is paid-to-use? If I’m paying to make something, I’m not giving it away for free. Not only that, it’s a proven failed business model see Borland for example. The few vendors that remain are for embedded devices. There are so many thing wrong with the idea it’s hard to know where to even start enumerating them. /shrug > They are not, and they're not helpful either. ...but please, don’t try to put words in my mouth, that’s just offensive. I am completely serious, and was in my previous comment too.
      - amedvednikov 8y ago
        The comment you replied to was sarcasm. The language is free.

ilovecaching 8y ago

Just an FYI, the author is more than likely scamming for donations, or at the very least drumming up donations for vaporware/misleading software. He has as of yet refused to publish any source code for his language, despite having close to 2k stars. If you read my comments, you'll see that he claims to have detailed information on his website, but all he has listed is compilation targets, claimed benchmarks (or just benchmarks taken out of context), and unimplemented features. Based on what he's saying, he has essentially sold snake oil based on PL buzzwords via blog posts and HN, and has little more than the type of front end you can build going through an LLVM IR guide. This man might be telling the truth, but based on his behavior so far I would be exceedingly suspicious of anything he says until he has actually released source code or a full compiler.

dang 8y ago
You've posted over a dozen of these comments to this thread. That's massively over the top, regardless of how right your original point might have been. Please stop now.

coldtea 8y ago

It's supposed to be released later in the summer. There have already been 2-3 posts about the language mentioning that, and it also mentions it elsewhere in the site that hosts the playground.