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> Because what that scarf yells at all those who do not wear it, through the voice of all the "believers" is "harlet, wrench, slut". That's a problem with that

> Because what that scarf yells at all those who do not wear it, through the voice of all the "believers" is "harlet, wrench, slut". That's a problem with that religion-dominated subculture, not with the symbolism itself. The notion that women should be shamed for the mere act of wearing a particular piece of clothing shuch as a headscarf is just as toxic as the one you're reacting to in your comment.

LifeLiverTransp 8y ago
It shouldnt matter. But that dream is for another paradise edition of earth yet to come. Its really difficult to find out wether a piece of clothing was a personal choice or something chosen/force upon a person to define in and outgroups. Basically, it boils down to detecting a thought-crime against open society. So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that?
- crooked-v 8y ago
  > So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that? Are you intentionally trying to sound like you're writing a South Park episode, or is that accidental?
  - LifeLiverTransp 8y ago
    You know what - seperation from society, aka the public plaza from any religion and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems. It really is the most easy way out. Nobody gets to errect his borderwalls of textile or lack thereof in main street. We vote on a standard, and thats it. That way all those warmongers steering the soupkitchen of hate cant warm on the heat of the debate. The only solution is not to play.
    - crooked-v 8y ago
      > and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems So why do you want to impose Christian religious standards of bare heads on Muslims?
      - _rutinerad 8y ago
        Bare heads is our default, is it not?
        crooked-v 8y ago
        Bare everything is our default, but you don't see society forcing people to go around naked.

LifeLiverTransp 8y ago

It shouldnt matter. But that dream is for another paradise edition of earth yet to come. Its really difficult to find out wether a piece of clothing was a personal choice or something chosen/force upon a person to define in and outgroups. Basically, it boils down to detecting a thought-crime against open society. So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that?

crooked-v 8y ago
> So why not agree on some middle ground. Transparent Headscarfs? Headscarfs made from hair-extensions? Something like that? Are you intentionally trying to sound like you're writing a South Park episode, or is that accidental?
- LifeLiverTransp 8y ago
  You know what - seperation from society, aka the public plaza from any religion and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems. It really is the most easy way out. Nobody gets to errect his borderwalls of textile or lack thereof in main street. We vote on a standard, and thats it. That way all those warmongers steering the soupkitchen of hate cant warm on the heat of the debate. The only solution is not to play.
  - crooked-v 8y ago
    > and attempts to impose religion like dogmas/rules/systems So why do you want to impose Christian religious standards of bare heads on Muslims?
    - _rutinerad 8y ago
      Bare heads is our default, is it not?
      - crooked-v 8y ago
        Bare everything is our default, but you don't see society forcing people to go around naked.