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The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high
- watwut 8y agoI like how cultural panic over people and especially youngsters being too causal with sex and having too much of it flopped directly to cultural panic over people and especially youngsters not having enough sex.
- _rpd 8y agoI think editors just demand a certain percentage of "X having sex Y" headlines for traffic purposes, and leave it up to the writer to fill in X and Y so that the headline can be justified.
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- rhcom2 8y agoSeems like a pretty obvious symptom of increasing loneliness and isolation.
- captainredbeard 8y agoSad
- LyndsySimon 8y agoThis is an interesting graph - the proportion of men aged 18-30 who were celibate for the past year doubled in the past decade: https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/Qalq8rTTOBvGnlWtfAt_RiXagMo=/480x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/4C7SSBIXSNFCLOJIGCWUOKDYTY.png https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/Qalq8rTTOBvGnlWtfAt_R... My first thought is that the “incel” crowd will grab on to this, and I wonder if they have a point. My next immediate thought is to wonder if the online social networks that have risen catering to that group might actually be the causative factor - men who feel unable to attract a partner instead find some level of companionship in these groups, creating a self-reinforcing cycle. I suspect the answer is a bit of both, though. Tech has likely had a profound impact on the dating scene for this generation, and it likely is more difficult for less attractive men to find companionship. For the purposes of disclosure, I’m a 36-year-old male who met his wife at 14 and married her at 21. My experiences are atypical for my generation, and I feel like I see these issues from an external perspective.
- threatofrain 8y agoThere are roughly as many men per women per age cohort, no? That implies that some people are just too restrictive in their attractions.
- watwut 8y agoAnd some other people are not suitable as partners. As in, there are people dating who is profoundly bad idea. And then there are people who are not in position to have partner, because they work long hours and/or lack privacy. In particular, 80 hours a week working dude in startup with nearly males only employees has zero chance to find a girl, altrough he may be nice and cool dude. Through, I noticed gender difference in how people talk and think about it all too.
- manfredo 8y agoAlternatively, it could mean sexual encounters are becoming more concentrated among a smaller portion of men while people's attractions remain exactly the same. This article goes into some detail about this: https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-t...
- xiphias2 8y agoThe data on the chart with sexual division supports this: women are still actively having sex
- captainredbeard 8y agoUnattractive men aren’t entitled to anything, sorry. I don’t think the numbers mean people are too restrictive. Honestly, I’m surprised it’s not more polarized.
- dictum 8y agoDisclaimers: I have no sympathy for the plight of the incel community, and anyone who even jokingly desires forced/unwanted relationships or rape deserves way worse than just ostracism. Still, I take issue with how the word entitlement weaves itself into such debates. What is due is due — how much a certain group yearns for it, or doesn't, is a distraction from whether the group should be granted its desire. It comes with an awful implication, which incels weaponize, that men who are having sex constantly are okay, possibly because they don't feel entitled to it. This raises nonchalance to a virtue. It simply convinces incels they should become more like the misogynists (like them) who, unlike them, are getting laid. It makes them want to have the eyes of a successful rapist [0] Nobody is entitled to anything. What few human rights we have were established through social consensus — sometimes as a concession to prevent wider unrest. Sex isn't a human right (though the choice to have it consensually is), mental health is. [0]: https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wyndham_Lewis#Quotes_about_Wyndham_Lewis https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wyndham_Lewis#Quotes_about_W...
- jammygit 8y agoWhen you're as busy as everyone is now, who has time? Can barely keep up with everything as it is. Luckily I'm already married, but it would be a problem otherwise.
- Waterluvian 8y agoYup. Pretty sure I had far more sex 15-19 than 20-32. Jobs and school and marriage and kids. I think sex and intimacy are critical to the health of my marriage and yet we struggle to make the time.
- throwaway808080 8y agoKids eat most of your time, that you’re too exhausted to do anything other than sleep. I’m pretty sleep deprived since our baby was born. Averaging about 6 hours of sleep a day, with interruptions every 2 hours.
- makecheck 8y agoThere could be economic and government factors here. Almost any form of birth control or medical procedure costs money (and kids really do), while many people are trying to just pay rent and eat. And governments seem to have been...motivated...to interfere as much as they can in matters of sex, abortion rights, etc.
- throwaway808080 8y agoYeah actively going against birth control is the dumbest thing a country can do. I’m talking about some US states that are still backward.