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Rubio, a Republican, wants to decrease the power of employers by curtailing non-compete agreements? I'll give this some serious consideration if it gets out of

Rubio, a Republican, wants to decrease the power of employers by curtailing non-compete agreements? I'll give this some serious consideration if it gets out of committee, and until that time I'm thinking this is bill is more about signaling than anything else. Still, increasing regulation on employer relations like this is a good start.

0815test 8y ago
> Rubio, a Republican, wants to decrease the power of employers by curtailing non-compete agreements? Look, let's dispel with this fiction that Rubio doesn't know what he's doing...
tathougies 8y ago
I mean republicans are generally in favor of a free market and non competes literally reduce competition
- raquo 8y ago
  Why, the existence of noncompetes is exactly free market in action. "Competition" != free market.
  - tathougies 8y ago
    No its not. The freedom to contract is nowhere to be found in the traditional libertarian view of rights to life liberty and property. In fact, libertarians (including those center libertarians in the republican party) consistently reject the ability for people to sign away their rights via contract. You cannot claim in good faith that republicans support the 'freedom' to contract your rights away. Can you contract the rest of you labor away for a fixed sum (ie slavery)? Of course not. You have the grand ole party to thank for that too. The ethic is consistent
    - raquo 8y ago
      Do you need help with the definition of "free market"? > In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, or by other authority. Proponents of the concept of free market contrast it with a regulated market in which a government intervenes in supply and demand through various methods, such as tariffs, used to restrict trade and to protect the local economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market Adding regulations to a market makes it less of a free market, even if those regulations are good for the people.
      - tathougies 8y ago
        Contracts on competition -- being neither bought nor sold -- are not under the purview of the free market any more than romantic love is. Another way to think about it. Republicans are typically for smaller government. A non conpete clause is only enforceable via government petition. A private company cannot threaten force against a person because of who they work for. All enforcement is via government. Thus banning non competes leads to less litigation and a smaller government. Finally there is no regulation being added to the market here. The government is in fact removing regulation by declaring via statute that it will no longer interfere when people violate certain types of agreements. Thats called the government butting out of peoples business Lets not construct bogey men.
        raquo 8y ago
        Really, still making up your own definitions, and of basic vocabulary terms now? Pathetic. Private contracts like non competes are not regulations. On the other hand, laws designed by the government are regulations. Which this bill will be if it becomes law. To disallow certain agreements in the labour market. To regulate it. Because it's regulation. That makes it less of a free market.
        tathougies 8y ago
        You're right. The part of the bill that says they are disallowed is a regulation. The part of the bill that says the government won't do a damned thing about the silly agreements you make with other people is not. Please discuss in good faith.

0815test 8y ago

> Rubio, a Republican, wants to decrease the power of employers by curtailing non-compete agreements? Look, let's dispel with this fiction that Rubio doesn't know what he's doing...

tathougies 8y ago

I mean republicans are generally in favor of a free market and non competes literally reduce competition

raquo 8y ago
Why, the existence of noncompetes is exactly free market in action. "Competition" != free market.
- tathougies 8y ago
  No its not. The freedom to contract is nowhere to be found in the traditional libertarian view of rights to life liberty and property. In fact, libertarians (including those center libertarians in the republican party) consistently reject the ability for people to sign away their rights via contract. You cannot claim in good faith that republicans support the 'freedom' to contract your rights away. Can you contract the rest of you labor away for a fixed sum (ie slavery)? Of course not. You have the grand ole party to thank for that too. The ethic is consistent
  - raquo 8y ago
    Do you need help with the definition of "free market"? > In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, or by other authority. Proponents of the concept of free market contrast it with a regulated market in which a government intervenes in supply and demand through various methods, such as tariffs, used to restrict trade and to protect the local economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market Adding regulations to a market makes it less of a free market, even if those regulations are good for the people.
    - tathougies 8y ago
      Contracts on competition -- being neither bought nor sold -- are not under the purview of the free market any more than romantic love is. Another way to think about it. Republicans are typically for smaller government. A non conpete clause is only enforceable via government petition. A private company cannot threaten force against a person because of who they work for. All enforcement is via government. Thus banning non competes leads to less litigation and a smaller government. Finally there is no regulation being added to the market here. The government is in fact removing regulation by declaring via statute that it will no longer interfere when people violate certain types of agreements. Thats called the government butting out of peoples business Lets not construct bogey men.
      - raquo 8y ago
        Really, still making up your own definitions, and of basic vocabulary terms now? Pathetic. Private contracts like non competes are not regulations. On the other hand, laws designed by the government are regulations. Which this bill will be if it becomes law. To disallow certain agreements in the labour market. To regulate it. Because it's regulation. That makes it less of a free market.
        tathougies 8y ago
        You're right. The part of the bill that says they are disallowed is a regulation. The part of the bill that says the government won't do a damned thing about the silly agreements you make with other people is not. Please discuss in good faith.