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Car modding has a) very high up-front costs, relative to developing political ideas and b) arguably very little chance of doing large-scale damage to a society.

Car modding has a) very high up-front costs, relative to developing political ideas and b) arguably very little chance of doing large-scale damage to a society. If car modding videos led you down a rabbit hole towards "watch how fast I can go if I cut the brake lines with these $3 wire cutters! Those braking requirements are just a conspiracy between big auto and the shadow government to keep you from reaching car enlightenment, so make sure to drive through the front window of your nearest car dealership"... and then people started doing that, we would have a different attitude about them.

mberning 8y ago
It was just an example, but who are you to say it’s not already a huge problem? It surely is to somebody. Maybe they work at YouTube. Modified vehicles spew enormous amounts of pollution into the environment which as we all know is a huge crisis. Driving highly modified vehicles on public roads is also a huge public safety hazard. Nobody needs 1000 horsepower on public roads. See how this can get out of hand? It all depends on who is deciding what is problematic.
FakeComments 8y ago
Are they going to take the same stance to videos about gaming, because gaming addiction is a real problem and a progressive diet of “Lets Plays” normalizes unhealthy amounts of video games, by showing people whose entire life is video games? Why is that different than politics?
- InitialLastName 8y ago
  I can't believe I have to say this, but it's different because political beliefs, whether they inspire one to shoot a bunch of people or just to vote for the "burn it all down" party can have a damaging influence over society as a whole. I.e. it's not just about the personal responsibility to oneself as much as the risk of being inspired to terrorism.
  - chrinic83 8y ago
    > I can't believe I have to say this, but it's different because political beliefs, whether they inspire one to shoot a bunch of people or just to vote for the "burn it all down" party can have a damaging influence over society as a whole. Sorry but you can't claim politics as holy and protected while disregarding gaming, modded cars, and other topics, arguably more political than "politics" topics.
  - unpwn 8y ago
    It has been argued many times that video games desensitize kids to violence & lead to violence. By your logic we would ban videos of call of duty as well. And your second point is you believe youtube videos are leading to people voting for an undesirable candidate. Why not just ban political conversation altogether? This way we can ensure people vote for pre-approved candidates.
    - sisu2019 8y ago
      Politics I don't like are dangerous and must be banned. Is that clear enough?
      - InitialLastName 8y ago
        You're right, I should never have brought politics into a discussion of violent radicalization. Those things definitely never overlap.
        FakeComments 8y ago
        The banning of dissent under the pretense of radicalism has harmed more people than terrorism — Stalin’s purges, Mao’s purges, heck, even Hitler was just clearing out the seditious members of society who were undermining a strong Germany. Your arguments, however you mean them, are also those used by tyrannical oppressors to justify the powers they use to commit great evil.
        8y ago

mberning 8y ago

It was just an example, but who are you to say it’s not already a huge problem? It surely is to somebody. Maybe they work at YouTube. Modified vehicles spew enormous amounts of pollution into the environment which as we all know is a huge crisis. Driving highly modified vehicles on public roads is also a huge public safety hazard. Nobody needs 1000 horsepower on public roads. See how this can get out of hand? It all depends on who is deciding what is problematic.

FakeComments 8y ago

Are they going to take the same stance to videos about gaming, because gaming addiction is a real problem and a progressive diet of “Lets Plays” normalizes unhealthy amounts of video games, by showing people whose entire life is video games? Why is that different than politics?

InitialLastName 8y ago
I can't believe I have to say this, but it's different because political beliefs, whether they inspire one to shoot a bunch of people or just to vote for the "burn it all down" party can have a damaging influence over society as a whole. I.e. it's not just about the personal responsibility to oneself as much as the risk of being inspired to terrorism.
- chrinic83 8y ago
  > I can't believe I have to say this, but it's different because political beliefs, whether they inspire one to shoot a bunch of people or just to vote for the "burn it all down" party can have a damaging influence over society as a whole. Sorry but you can't claim politics as holy and protected while disregarding gaming, modded cars, and other topics, arguably more political than "politics" topics.
- unpwn 8y ago
  It has been argued many times that video games desensitize kids to violence & lead to violence. By your logic we would ban videos of call of duty as well. And your second point is you believe youtube videos are leading to people voting for an undesirable candidate. Why not just ban political conversation altogether? This way we can ensure people vote for pre-approved candidates.
  - sisu2019 8y ago
    Politics I don't like are dangerous and must be banned. Is that clear enough?
    - InitialLastName 8y ago
      You're right, I should never have brought politics into a discussion of violent radicalization. Those things definitely never overlap.
      - FakeComments 8y ago
        The banning of dissent under the pretense of radicalism has harmed more people than terrorism — Stalin’s purges, Mao’s purges, heck, even Hitler was just clearing out the seditious members of society who were undermining a strong Germany. Your arguments, however you mean them, are also those used by tyrannical oppressors to justify the powers they use to commit great evil.
        8y ago