> I'm wondering if there's not a deeper problem within the air data systems. ... Because the stick shakers, unreliable air speed, and everything else would stil

> I'm wondering if there's not a deeper problem within the air data systems. ... Because the stick shakers, unreliable air speed, and everything else would still be happening regardless of MCAS. This is a very good point. If the AoA sensor failed say climbing through cloud at 5000ft on auto-pilot, dropping control of the aircraft to a pilot who's busy thinking about what he's going to have for lunch, with half a dozen alerts going off, an AF447 type incident could easily happen MCAS or no MCAS.