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I’m part if that immigration wave, as well as my brother and a friend. Thankfully there was an opportunity to do that since we all worked in IT and employed for

I’m part if that immigration wave, as well as my brother and a friend. Thankfully there was an opportunity to do that since we all worked in IT and employed for the same company that we helped to build remotely. The political climate and economic instability, combined with knowledge of historical precedents makes me believe that Russian people’s future is very dim, as is their past over the whole life of that troubled country. When we immigrated in 2012, I already had a son and as a father I couldn’t find it conscionable to state. I didn’t want to be someone who decided to stay in Germany of 1935.

johnchristopher 8y ago
> I didn’t want to be someone who decided to stay in Germany of 1935. What are you referring to exactly ?
- EugeneOZ 8y ago
  It's obvious that border will be closed soon and people will have no choice to support Putin's regime or not. Right now russian government is trying to create own "internet", separated from the global net, control every call/sms on the phones and every bit of traffic. Law about the "fake news" started today: if some person wrote a commentary (or post/article) about the people from the government (or their friends) and content was negative, then this person will be charged with fee. If you think that somebody is going to check that news are real or not - you have no idea about "laws" in russia :)
- loriverkutya 8y ago
  Let me help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_in_Germany
  - johnchristopher 8y ago
    Oh, thanks. Now I totally see which aspects of 1935 in Germany parent has in mind when thinking about contemporary Russia. I can see how Sarah Kirsch's birth was a foretelling sign for things to come. Totally helping, totally awesome.
    - kjeetgill 8y ago
      The very first line is: "Head of state, Hitler" I think that says enough?
      - johnchristopher 8y ago
        No, it doesn't. "Because Hitler" is way too vague. It doesn't tell anything about which events seem similar to OP and how the situation in the country is evolving. Unless he means Putin is acting and thinking like Hitler which is a gross generalization and still doesn't tell much about what's happening. By that reasoning it follows that OP should have left the country when Putin was first elected president in 1999. edit: Also, Hitler became head of state in august of the previous year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_in_Germany So, why 1935 and not 1934 ? But that's okay, OP clarified things https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19521632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19521632 I am curious why this is downvoted and people seem to be OK with the Hitler rising to power comparison when we usually have political conversation here that are going much much deeper in the details of things.
- dsabanin 8y ago
  No particular event, but I was thinking about the fact that at least some people in Germany must have had a premonition about what might happen, with Hitler’s raise to power and Germany becoming a dictatorship. Some of these people trusted their gut and analysis and got out, some decided to stay.
  - johnchristopher 8y ago
    Ah, I wouldn't want to live in Russia from what I gather from the media but it's another story to live there and the picture is far from complete for a european such as myself. I had a conversation with my grand-mother years ago about if it could have known it was better to leave. Some people knew, of those most couldn't leave. Russia's whereabouts appear now and then on the TV but it's soon replaced by something else so it doesn't stay on our mind for long (enough ?). I actually don't have a lot of info about russia. I know they engage in online trolling, that they have a whole org dedicated to bashing the EU and NATO in the media and that at some point there was a weirdly oriented map in the president's office that showed Russia as somehow cornered by continental Europe. I also hear about how journalists are threatened by politics and the murder of that woman on Putin's birthday. And the invasion/incursion. But then nothing changes here and Brexit linger on and on. Interestingly Sigmund Freud only left the continent when the anschluss happened so it's quite hard to predict that kind of thing.

johnchristopher 8y ago

> I didn’t want to be someone who decided to stay in Germany of 1935. What are you referring to exactly ?

EugeneOZ 8y ago
It's obvious that border will be closed soon and people will have no choice to support Putin's regime or not. Right now russian government is trying to create own "internet", separated from the global net, control every call/sms on the phones and every bit of traffic. Law about the "fake news" started today: if some person wrote a commentary (or post/article) about the people from the government (or their friends) and content was negative, then this person will be charged with fee. If you think that somebody is going to check that news are real or not - you have no idea about "laws" in russia :)
loriverkutya 8y ago
Let me help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_in_Germany
- johnchristopher 8y ago
  Oh, thanks. Now I totally see which aspects of 1935 in Germany parent has in mind when thinking about contemporary Russia. I can see how Sarah Kirsch's birth was a foretelling sign for things to come. Totally helping, totally awesome.
  - kjeetgill 8y ago
    The very first line is: "Head of state, Hitler" I think that says enough?
    - johnchristopher 8y ago
      No, it doesn't. "Because Hitler" is way too vague. It doesn't tell anything about which events seem similar to OP and how the situation in the country is evolving. Unless he means Putin is acting and thinking like Hitler which is a gross generalization and still doesn't tell much about what's happening. By that reasoning it follows that OP should have left the country when Putin was first elected president in 1999. edit: Also, Hitler became head of state in august of the previous year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_in_Germany So, why 1935 and not 1934 ? But that's okay, OP clarified things https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19521632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19521632 I am curious why this is downvoted and people seem to be OK with the Hitler rising to power comparison when we usually have political conversation here that are going much much deeper in the details of things.
dsabanin 8y ago
No particular event, but I was thinking about the fact that at least some people in Germany must have had a premonition about what might happen, with Hitler’s raise to power and Germany becoming a dictatorship. Some of these people trusted their gut and analysis and got out, some decided to stay.
- johnchristopher 8y ago
  Ah, I wouldn't want to live in Russia from what I gather from the media but it's another story to live there and the picture is far from complete for a european such as myself. I had a conversation with my grand-mother years ago about if it could have known it was better to leave. Some people knew, of those most couldn't leave. Russia's whereabouts appear now and then on the TV but it's soon replaced by something else so it doesn't stay on our mind for long (enough ?). I actually don't have a lot of info about russia. I know they engage in online trolling, that they have a whole org dedicated to bashing the EU and NATO in the media and that at some point there was a weirdly oriented map in the president's office that showed Russia as somehow cornered by continental Europe. I also hear about how journalists are threatened by politics and the murder of that woman on Putin's birthday. And the invasion/incursion. But then nothing changes here and Brexit linger on and on. Interestingly Sigmund Freud only left the continent when the anschluss happened so it's quite hard to predict that kind of thing.