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> You can avoid Huawei devices because it's easy to say "this brand is bad." You know for a fact not a single packet any of your devices have sent or received

by auiya 8y ago

> You can avoid Huawei devices because it's easy to say "this brand is bad." You know for a fact not a single packet any of your devices have sent or received have traversed a Huawei device?

huffmsa 8y ago
I don't. But I did make a conscious decision recently to not buy a phone from them.
- zimpenfish 8y ago
  It's not just their phones, sadly, they're quite a popular supplier of backend telco equipment. e.g., in the UK, > BT has announced it is in the process of removing Huawei's equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations
everdrive 8y ago
I think this is a great example of an equivocation that often gets made. A security risk that a company might be able to reliably implement on a large scale, vs. a technical security risk that might only be true in a research lab. ie, a single packet going through a Huawei devices doesn't pose me any threat. Not really. If I signed up for a Tencent service, though, quite a bit of my information would be voluntarily handed to the Chinese government. (and to be clear, there is a real risk to Huawei infrastructure, but it's not the rare possibility that I may never be able to avoid it as I sometimes use the internet.)
- lightedman 8y ago
  "A security risk that a company might be able to reliably implement on a large scale, vs. a technical security risk that might only be true in a research lab." Man can make it, man can break it. One of the most valuable lessons taught to me during my times at Solectron Global. You think you're secure in any way? No. The absolute nature of computer science makes 'security' a laughable goal. See: Ghidra. I've already used it to pull out several 0-days from Windows 7 and 8+ (including 10 since it is based on 8.) Your train of thought is good, but doesn't hold up to actual reality. And while you think those packets hold no threat to you, try going overseas if you've said anything bad (I had to deal with this in Thailand after criticizing the King while living in the USA.) Don't be naive - watch what these people in charge are doing.

by auiya 8y ago

> You can avoid Huawei devices because it's easy to say "this brand is bad." You know for a fact not a single packet any of your devices have sent or received have traversed a Huawei device?

huffmsa 8y ago

I don't. But I did make a conscious decision recently to not buy a phone from them.

zimpenfish 8y ago
It's not just their phones, sadly, they're quite a popular supplier of backend telco equipment. e.g., in the UK, > BT has announced it is in the process of removing Huawei's equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations

everdrive 8y ago

I think this is a great example of an equivocation that often gets made. A security risk that a company might be able to reliably implement on a large scale, vs. a technical security risk that might only be true in a research lab. ie, a single packet going through a Huawei devices doesn't pose me any threat. Not really. If I signed up for a Tencent service, though, quite a bit of my information would be voluntarily handed to the Chinese government. (and to be clear, there is a real risk to Huawei infrastructure, but it's not the rare possibility that I may never be able to avoid it as I sometimes use the internet.)

lightedman 8y ago
"A security risk that a company might be able to reliably implement on a large scale, vs. a technical security risk that might only be true in a research lab." Man can make it, man can break it. One of the most valuable lessons taught to me during my times at Solectron Global. You think you're secure in any way? No. The absolute nature of computer science makes 'security' a laughable goal. See: Ghidra. I've already used it to pull out several 0-days from Windows 7 and 8+ (including 10 since it is based on 8.) Your train of thought is good, but doesn't hold up to actual reality. And while you think those packets hold no threat to you, try going overseas if you've said anything bad (I had to deal with this in Thailand after criticizing the King while living in the USA.) Don't be naive - watch what these people in charge are doing.