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I think anybody that's educated can filter out the noise usually and get at some element of the truth. This is an option that would have been mostly unavailable

by rusk 8y ago

I think anybody that's educated can filter out the noise usually and get at some element of the truth. This is an option that would have been mostly unavailable beforehand. Anybody that's easily swept up by rumours and bullshit was always just getting sucked in by the tabloids and the mainstream press anyway so their situation remains unchanged. What is particularly interesting in the case of Brexit, and perhaps tangential is how the Brexiteers keep getting caught out speaking out both sides of their mouths time after time. They make a deal in Brussels and then fly home and speak to factory workers in Grimsby contradicting that deal. It's reported immediately online and goes straight back to Brussels where they're "like really?".

DanielBMarkham 8y ago
I'm going to disengage because I believe this is getting too far into local politics for me. However I want to make sure you understand my point. "...I think anybody that's educated can filter out the noise usually and get at some element of the truth...Anybody that's easily swept up by rumours and bullshit..." You understand that's not the way it works, right? This isn't an intelligence test. My point was about how humans make decisions, not how stupid people gossip and believe things they shouldn't. That's a great topic, but not my point. You don't educate or smart your way about of being human. It doesn't work like that. I used to love to discuss politics with folks, mainly because it was the one area in which really smart people believed really stupid things. It was -- and remains -- an excellent place to observe clanning and how the human mind works. (I stopped bringing it up, though, because as it turns out, text conversations have a completely different dynamic than in-person conversations.) Thanks for the chat!
- rusk 8y ago
  Such blather
repolfx 8y ago
how the Brexiteers keep getting caught out speaking out both sides of their mouths time after time. They make a deal in Brussels and then fly home and speak to factory workers in Grimsby contradicting that deal I'm not sure what events you're thinking of here, but no "Brexiteers" have been involved in negotiations for a long time. May went behind their backs and they all resigned, the cabinet has been dominated by Remainers like May ever since. The reason it's such a farce is because the entire process is being run end to end by people who desperately want to ensure leaving can never happen without actually being too obvious about it (they've failed at that too).

by rusk 8y ago

DanielBMarkham 8y ago

I'm going to disengage because I believe this is getting too far into local politics for me. However I want to make sure you understand my point. "...I think anybody that's educated can filter out the noise usually and get at some element of the truth...Anybody that's easily swept up by rumours and bullshit..." You understand that's not the way it works, right? This isn't an intelligence test. My point was about how humans make decisions, not how stupid people gossip and believe things they shouldn't. That's a great topic, but not my point. You don't educate or smart your way about of being human. It doesn't work like that. I used to love to discuss politics with folks, mainly because it was the one area in which really smart people believed really stupid things. It was -- and remains -- an excellent place to observe clanning and how the human mind works. (I stopped bringing it up, though, because as it turns out, text conversations have a completely different dynamic than in-person conversations.) Thanks for the chat!

rusk 8y ago
Such blather

repolfx 8y ago

how the Brexiteers keep getting caught out speaking out both sides of their mouths time after time. They make a deal in Brussels and then fly home and speak to factory workers in Grimsby contradicting that deal I'm not sure what events you're thinking of here, but no "Brexiteers" have been involved in negotiations for a long time. May went behind their backs and they all resigned, the cabinet has been dominated by Remainers like May ever since. The reason it's such a farce is because the entire process is being run end to end by people who desperately want to ensure leaving can never happen without actually being too obvious about it (they've failed at that too).