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Basically we're sitting at no deal or no brexit. If no deal happens I have to leave the UK in the next 2 weeks...

by akerro 8y ago

davzie 8y ago
Why would you have to leave?
- akerro 8y ago
  My partner will lose her rights to work and will require a visa to enter UK, we will just both leave permanently.
kieckerjan 8y ago
Are you an EU expat in the UK? I am curious as to how the government is communicating about this with people in your situation. Is there any communication at all? Here in the Netherlands there is a pretty solid campaign to inform people (mostly business owners) to brace for impact.
- akerro 8y ago
  I am, but my partner isn't. She will have to apply for rights to work and visa to enter/leave. Personally I haven't seen any communication towards me at all since 2016, but I also wasn't looking for it. It's just too big mess to even try to follow any information, whatever was true 2 days ago, isn't any more. Just look at this, I will also need to get international driving licence to visit my parents https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-fo...
  - desdiv 8y ago
    Your partner has the right to live and work in the UK, and to travel in and out of it without a UK visa. This brexit mess does not abridge any of those rights. 1. If you guys are married, she can apply for the EU Settlement Scheme[1]. 2. If you guys are not married, you need to first register a civil partnership[2], and then she can apply for the EU Settlement Scheme. None of these require EU citizenship for your partner. [1] https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/apply... [2] https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/registering-a-civil-partnership/#h-who-can-register-a-civil-partnership https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-mar...
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reubeniv 8y ago
would you? citizens rights have been secured here regardless of outcome, no EU citizens will to leave the UK
moreira 8y ago
Do you though? As per gov.uk[0]: > The rights and status of EU, EEA and Swiss citizens living in the UK will remain the same until 30 June 2021. [0]: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/what-settled-and-presettled-status-means https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/what-...
- desdiv 8y ago
  OP has EU citizenship, OP's partner does not. OP was under the impression that their non-EU partner will loose their right to work in the UK. That's definitely not the case though, and I've replied to OP on the steps to securing a "Settled Status" for their partner.
Zenst 8y ago
Yes, it was clear back in 2015 that article 50 was flawed and had no provision for displaced nationals. That and the aspect that no single MEP has spoke out about that flaw and done anything about it for any future use, even if too late for current utilisation is a sad inditement upon an institution that trumpets citizen rights. That said, I still in our current useless political climate do not see the UK not doing the right thing about displaced nationals in the UK. But equally, wished article 50 was not flawed in a way that in effect has rendered displaced nationals as negotiation pawns. That's unfair, however you look at it. FWIW I lobbied several MEP's and EU leaders about this flaw in article 50 back in 2015 and in 2016, and all I got was ignored and no MEP or EU leader wanted to address the issue and I came away feeling that deep down, they like the current flaw as any public fallout can be laid upon those utilising article 50. Which is even more worrying.

Basically we're sitting at no deal or no brexit. If no deal happens I have to leave the UK in the next 2 weeks...

by akerro 8y ago

Basically we're sitting at no deal or no brexit. If no deal happens I have to leave the UK in the next 2 weeks...

davzie 8y ago

Why would you have to leave?

akerro 8y ago
My partner will lose her rights to work and will require a visa to enter UK, we will just both leave permanently.

kieckerjan 8y ago

Are you an EU expat in the UK? I am curious as to how the government is communicating about this with people in your situation. Is there any communication at all? Here in the Netherlands there is a pretty solid campaign to inform people (mostly business owners) to brace for impact.

akerro 8y ago
I am, but my partner isn't. She will have to apply for rights to work and visa to enter/leave. Personally I haven't seen any communication towards me at all since 2016, but I also wasn't looking for it. It's just too big mess to even try to follow any information, whatever was true 2 days ago, isn't any more. Just look at this, I will also need to get international driving licence to visit my parents https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-fo...
- desdiv 8y ago
  Your partner has the right to live and work in the UK, and to travel in and out of it without a UK visa. This brexit mess does not abridge any of those rights. 1. If you guys are married, she can apply for the EU Settlement Scheme[1]. 2. If you guys are not married, you need to first register a civil partnership[2], and then she can apply for the EU Settlement Scheme. None of these require EU citizenship for your partner. [1] https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/apply... [2] https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/registering-a-civil-partnership/#h-who-can-register-a-civil-partnership https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-mar...
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]

reubeniv 8y ago

would you? citizens rights have been secured here regardless of outcome, no EU citizens will to leave the UK

moreira 8y ago

Do you though? As per gov.uk[0]: > The rights and status of EU, EEA and Swiss citizens living in the UK will remain the same until 30 June 2021. [0]: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/what-settled-and-presettled-status-means https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/what-...

desdiv 8y ago
OP has EU citizenship, OP's partner does not. OP was under the impression that their non-EU partner will loose their right to work in the UK. That's definitely not the case though, and I've replied to OP on the steps to securing a "Settled Status" for their partner.

Zenst 8y ago

Yes, it was clear back in 2015 that article 50 was flawed and had no provision for displaced nationals. That and the aspect that no single MEP has spoke out about that flaw and done anything about it for any future use, even if too late for current utilisation is a sad inditement upon an institution that trumpets citizen rights. That said, I still in our current useless political climate do not see the UK not doing the right thing about displaced nationals in the UK. But equally, wished article 50 was not flawed in a way that in effect has rendered displaced nationals as negotiation pawns. That's unfair, however you look at it. FWIW I lobbied several MEP's and EU leaders about this flaw in article 50 back in 2015 and in 2016, and all I got was ignored and no MEP or EU leader wanted to address the issue and I came away feeling that deep down, they like the current flaw as any public fallout can be laid upon those utilising article 50. Which is even more worrying.