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2 × 12 MP RGB, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 3 × 12 MP BW, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 1 × TOF depth sensor 1 × dual-LED/dual-tone flash Zeiss Optics Who is this phone e

2 × 12 MP RGB, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 3 × 12 MP BW, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 1 × TOF depth sensor 1 × dual-LED/dual-tone flash Zeiss Optics Who is this phone even for? If you're that into cameras wouldn't you go buy... a camera?

quickthrower2 8y ago
The best camera is the one you have with you.
jplayer01 8y ago
Some people don't always want to carry around their DSLR. Having a decent back-up with great image quality in their phone that they always have with them is convenient. And not everybody is willing to buy a DSLR, but cares just enough about picture quality that they might get this. Apple and Samsung don't fill their advertising with how great their cameras are just for fun.
- a012 8y ago
  A compact camera like Sony RX100 or Ricoh GR II would give you better quality than phones camera yet smaller than a DSLR
  - folex 8y ago
    Having GR III, but not very skillful with it, I would say that taking an image as vivid and clear as AI-backed smartphone (e.g., Pixel 2XL) is pretty hard. And it would likely require some post-processing. But of course, the GR's image is much more detailed and sharper. But that is almost negligible on the small Instagram photos. edit: typo
  - dagw 8y ago
    Yes and no. Phones these days have a lot of very smart built in software that makes it very easy to take good looking pictures in most situations by just pointing and clicking. Could a skilled photographer using an RX100 in manual mode and then spending 30 minutes in Lightroom produces better results? Absolutely. Would a picture taken with an RX100 in full auto mode using the default jpeg settings look better when viewed on a phone or computer screen, probably not.
    - lucasverra 8y ago
      this comment right there will be useful for years to come. /Saving
  - jplayer01 8y ago
    And yet it's still an extra device that you'd need to plan for using. I have this Sansa MP3 player with great quality audio that is 1/10th the size of your average digital camera. I still don't bring it with me anywhere anymore.
Tor3 8y ago
It's different from your normal DSLR, the point of those five cameras is to get control over the field of depth. You can shift the focus after you've taken the picture. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-47350379/hands-on-with-the-nokia-9-pureview https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-47350379/hands-on-wit...
rasz 8y ago
The very best camera is the one you have on hand when opportunity for taking a shot arises. Good luck lugging a DSLR 24/7.
- random878 8y ago
  Cheap phone + Ricoh GR
httpsterio 8y ago
As others stated, I don't carry my DSLR with me at all times. It weighs almost two kilograms with the lenses and I need to have a bag for it or carry it around my neck for the whole day (did it a few times on a trip, ouch). I bought the Nokia 9 because its faster to get good photos than a regular camera and easier to lug around than a DSLR. For its price, I'm really happy with the specs and the camera. Only minus is the horrendous fingerprint scanner.
fsloth 8y ago
It's not people who care about cameras, it's for people who enjoy photography. Those are not completely related, since a camera junkie might enjoy collecting hardware for the thrill of it.

quickthrower2 8y ago

The best camera is the one you have with you.

jplayer01 8y ago

Some people don't always want to carry around their DSLR. Having a decent back-up with great image quality in their phone that they always have with them is convenient. And not everybody is willing to buy a DSLR, but cares just enough about picture quality that they might get this. Apple and Samsung don't fill their advertising with how great their cameras are just for fun.

a012 8y ago
A compact camera like Sony RX100 or Ricoh GR II would give you better quality than phones camera yet smaller than a DSLR
- folex 8y ago
  Having GR III, but not very skillful with it, I would say that taking an image as vivid and clear as AI-backed smartphone (e.g., Pixel 2XL) is pretty hard. And it would likely require some post-processing. But of course, the GR's image is much more detailed and sharper. But that is almost negligible on the small Instagram photos. edit: typo
- dagw 8y ago
  Yes and no. Phones these days have a lot of very smart built in software that makes it very easy to take good looking pictures in most situations by just pointing and clicking. Could a skilled photographer using an RX100 in manual mode and then spending 30 minutes in Lightroom produces better results? Absolutely. Would a picture taken with an RX100 in full auto mode using the default jpeg settings look better when viewed on a phone or computer screen, probably not.
  - lucasverra 8y ago
    this comment right there will be useful for years to come. /Saving
- jplayer01 8y ago
  And yet it's still an extra device that you'd need to plan for using. I have this Sansa MP3 player with great quality audio that is 1/10th the size of your average digital camera. I still don't bring it with me anywhere anymore.

Tor3 8y ago

It's different from your normal DSLR, the point of those five cameras is to get control over the field of depth. You can shift the focus after you've taken the picture. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-47350379/hands-on-with-the-nokia-9-pureview https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-47350379/hands-on-wit...

rasz 8y ago

The very best camera is the one you have on hand when opportunity for taking a shot arises. Good luck lugging a DSLR 24/7.

random878 8y ago
Cheap phone + Ricoh GR

httpsterio 8y ago

As others stated, I don't carry my DSLR with me at all times. It weighs almost two kilograms with the lenses and I need to have a bag for it or carry it around my neck for the whole day (did it a few times on a trip, ouch). I bought the Nokia 9 because its faster to get good photos than a regular camera and easier to lug around than a DSLR. For its price, I'm really happy with the specs and the camera. Only minus is the horrendous fingerprint scanner.

fsloth 8y ago

It's not people who care about cameras, it's for people who enjoy photography. Those are not completely related, since a camera junkie might enjoy collecting hardware for the thrill of it.