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This is more autistic than sociopathic. It's quite possible that he won't burn out, simply because he really isn't interested in socialization.

by devinj 16y ago

peteforde 16y ago
Do you know that the man in question is in fact autistic? Austism and Aspergers are conditions that get casually assigned to geeks with eccentric or anomalous behaviours far too often. Given the degree to which the founder in question is functioning, it's medically unlikely that he has either condition. Meanwhile, I believe that being averse to forming complex friend relationships combined with creating a culture of constant work (which many would describe as abusive) is sociopathic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy
- devinj 16y ago
  I didn't say he was autistic. I said the described behaviour is autistic. Which it is. Sociopathic is what it isn't.
  - peteforde 16y ago
    You are just being argumentative. Autism is a condition, not a type of behaviour that you can opt-in to. By your logic, anything someone does that is sufficiently abnormal qualifies as autistic. I guess I'd hope that you'd step away from this conversation and stop calling non-autistic people autistic. "Weird and frustrating" is probably more appropriate anyhow.
    - devinj 16y ago
      How is saying that non-autistic people have autistic traits any different than saying non-sociopaths have sociopathic traits? You're being hypocritical. Certainly there are traits that are well established as being "autistic" and "sociopathic". This is the former, not the latter -- the latter is characterized by a more predatory or ambitious nature, which this guy seems to lack, at least by his own descriptions. It's morelike he doesn't see the point in socialization. Sociopaths, on the contrary, are very social. And, despite the fact that you keep claiming I did so, I did not call him autistic, and the first time you accused me of calling him autistic, I said that wasn't true. I guess I'd hope I wouldn't have to tell you things twice.

This is more autistic than sociopathic. It's quite possible that he won't burn out, simply because he really isn't interested in socialization.

by devinj 16y ago

This is more autistic than sociopathic. It's quite possible that he won't burn out, simply because he really isn't interested in socialization.

peteforde 16y ago

Do you know that the man in question is in fact autistic? Austism and Aspergers are conditions that get casually assigned to geeks with eccentric or anomalous behaviours far too often. Given the degree to which the founder in question is functioning, it's medically unlikely that he has either condition. Meanwhile, I believe that being averse to forming complex friend relationships combined with creating a culture of constant work (which many would describe as abusive) is sociopathic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy

devinj 16y ago
I didn't say he was autistic. I said the described behaviour is autistic. Which it is. Sociopathic is what it isn't.
- peteforde 16y ago
  You are just being argumentative. Autism is a condition, not a type of behaviour that you can opt-in to. By your logic, anything someone does that is sufficiently abnormal qualifies as autistic. I guess I'd hope that you'd step away from this conversation and stop calling non-autistic people autistic. "Weird and frustrating" is probably more appropriate anyhow.
  - devinj 16y ago
    How is saying that non-autistic people have autistic traits any different than saying non-sociopaths have sociopathic traits? You're being hypocritical. Certainly there are traits that are well established as being "autistic" and "sociopathic". This is the former, not the latter -- the latter is characterized by a more predatory or ambitious nature, which this guy seems to lack, at least by his own descriptions. It's morelike he doesn't see the point in socialization. Sociopaths, on the contrary, are very social. And, despite the fact that you keep claiming I did so, I did not call him autistic, and the first time you accused me of calling him autistic, I said that wasn't true. I guess I'd hope I wouldn't have to tell you things twice.