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TL;DR: it doesn't quite work[1]. ------------------ >Portamento is a fairly standard feature On monophonic synthesizers. There's no standard on how that wou
by romwell 8y ago
TL;DR: it doesn't quite work[1].
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>Portamento is a fairly standard feature
On monophonic synthesizers.
There's no standard on how that would work with polyphony (that would be pretty much equivalent to polyphonic pitch bend). With your trick, you'd still need to specify which note goes to which new note with portamento/glide, and there is no standard for that.
The problem is usually worse with analog gear, where oscillators are commonly assigned to keys via a round-robin scheme. So enabling polyphonic portamento means that even if you play the same chord over and over, you'd hear the notes slide! Not quite what you intend.
So while some polyphonic synths have portamento/glide in poly mode, lack of support in the protocol means that it acts unpredictably: you only have control of where the notes are sliding to, as a set.
You can see the problem very clearly, using Behringer Deepmind 6 (6-voice analog with poly portamento) as an example here[1].
At this point, you break out your polyphony into voices, put each voice on its own track / MIDI channel, and pitch bend / portamento that (and record separately, if needed). And then you have the ROLI solution. Which is not compatible with any other MIDI controller.
As I said, MIDI is hackable enough to allow one to do pretty much everything, but it's going to be non-standard. And standards and defaults matter.
For that matter, that's why we have MPE[2], which is an extension of MIDI, but it's very, very new (2018-new).
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9cvMCHgB2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9cvMCHgB2s
[2]http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/mpe.html http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/mpe.html
- dwringer 8y agoWell for polyphony the "which note goes where" issue could, with creative sequencing, be solved by using different channels for each individual note to override the synthesizer's configured behavior [also enabling the use of simple pitch bends for the effect] - but I guess any good solution here will end up requiring even more hardware or software to allow this [it looks like this is essentially the goal of MPE] and, as you imply, arguably be a "nonstandard hack". But music IMHO is often about finding value and personal expression in the nonstandard along with the standard (perhaps I'm a little biased from too much jazz, because admittedly this isn't the case for all players in all styles). And musicians have certainly employed MIDI to use these techniques for decades. Regardless of my possibly misguided attempts at defending a 36-year-old spec, I absolutely still agree with you, however, that an improved standard could certainly make having more creative control simpler and easier, requiring fewer "hacks".