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Their choice of headline is a reference to a historical document from almost a century ago. Would it be better if we: a) rewrite history, or b) never reference

Their choice of headline is a reference to a historical document from almost a century ago. Would it be better if we: a) rewrite history, or b) never reference it?

crux_ 16y ago
They chose the headline; I did not -- and it seems pretty clear from more than just the headline that the AdGrok folks value anti-PC posturing quite highly. If it were me choosing the headline, and I had a desire to reference Shackleton's journey, what's wrong with "Wanted for hazardous journey: [...]"?
- ryanwaggoner 16y ago
  First, point to anything else in that blog post that indicates any kind of "anti-PC posturing". Specifically anything that reveals any kind of gender bias. I'm guessing that you can't without revealing some gender biases of your own, but try me. Second, there's a difference between "anti-PC" and anti-equality. For example, I can say "fuck political correctness" because I think running around mincing your words in a (pointless and futile) attempt to avoid offending anyone is cowardly, but that doesn't mean that I hate minorities or am against equality. It just means that I think "political correctness" is stupid. If you're offended by my opinions, that's really not my problem; it's yours.
  - crux_ 16y ago
    > # Tell jokes that would make sailors blush Not specific gender bias, but we can both agree it's likely. > For example, I can say "fuck political correctness" Sure you can, just like every other startup/developer type has said ten thousand times -- hell, you aren't even the first in this thread. Isn't there room for a more nuanced view?
JabavuAdams 16y ago
Dude, we're not talking about The 300 here. It's not a scholarly work, a historical piece, nor even a stand-up-comedy routine. It's a job ad. That matters. HP Lovecraft's poem "On the Creation of the Nigger" is also a historical document from a century ago. We should not bury it, as it's an important document. I like the Cthulhu mythos, but I wouldn't quote that poem in a job ad in 2010. Now of course people will reply "saying 'Men' isn't as bad as saying 'Nigger'", and miss the point.
eru 16y ago
In practice, most people prefer a. Compare history books from different ages.

Their choice of headline is a reference to a historical document from almost a century ago. Would it be better if we: a) rewrite history, or b) never reference it?

crux_ 16y ago

They chose the headline; I did not -- and it seems pretty clear from more than just the headline that the AdGrok folks value anti-PC posturing quite highly. If it were me choosing the headline, and I had a desire to reference Shackleton's journey, what's wrong with "Wanted for hazardous journey: [...]"?

ryanwaggoner 16y ago
First, point to anything else in that blog post that indicates any kind of "anti-PC posturing". Specifically anything that reveals any kind of gender bias. I'm guessing that you can't without revealing some gender biases of your own, but try me. Second, there's a difference between "anti-PC" and anti-equality. For example, I can say "fuck political correctness" because I think running around mincing your words in a (pointless and futile) attempt to avoid offending anyone is cowardly, but that doesn't mean that I hate minorities or am against equality. It just means that I think "political correctness" is stupid. If you're offended by my opinions, that's really not my problem; it's yours.
- crux_ 16y ago
  > # Tell jokes that would make sailors blush Not specific gender bias, but we can both agree it's likely. > For example, I can say "fuck political correctness" Sure you can, just like every other startup/developer type has said ten thousand times -- hell, you aren't even the first in this thread. Isn't there room for a more nuanced view?

JabavuAdams 16y ago

Dude, we're not talking about The 300 here. It's not a scholarly work, a historical piece, nor even a stand-up-comedy routine. It's a job ad. That matters. HP Lovecraft's poem "On the Creation of the Nigger" is also a historical document from a century ago. We should not bury it, as it's an important document. I like the Cthulhu mythos, but I wouldn't quote that poem in a job ad in 2010. Now of course people will reply "saying 'Men' isn't as bad as saying 'Nigger'", and miss the point.

eru 16y ago

In practice, most people prefer a. Compare history books from different ages.