They still had VSPC in 85, but had switched to CMS by 87. The punch card reader / printer ended in 85, and somewhere in a box I got a stack of cards. I took C

They still had VSPC in 85, but had switched to CMS by 87. The punch card reader / printer ended in 85, and somewhere in a box I got a stack of cards. I took C on the VAX (they bought a AT&T 3B2 somewhere around 90 or 91), and I do vaguely remember Ada was on the VAX also. My early hate of Lisp was a direct result of them teaching it on the VAX. I was told the VAX had 4MBytes of actual memory and the each Lisp instance took 5. I played poker in the basement of Upson II while the damn thing loaded my program and played more while it ran. Being a lover of Forth at that point, tended to make me think Lisp was a bit of a hog. Somehow the school got a Cray (I think from a oil company), but they weren't given the manuals right away. The manuals that they printed came from microfiche I had. I'm not sure if any students ever got to use it. UND did give a unique experience in a CompSci degree.