> Could humans be considered to be a Gödel machine? At least parts of our brain, for sure. It is clear that we can improve some of our own learning algorithms.

> Could humans be considered to be a Gödel machine? At least parts of our brain, for sure. It is clear that we can improve some of our own learning algorithms. Everything that is innate, no (or not yet). For example, a liver cannot optimize itself in novel ways during its lifetime. > If not a human, could the entire humanity considered as one entity be considered to be a Gödel machine? Good question. I'm not sure humanity has a utility function, so even though it clearly can self-modify, the question might be nonsensical. > On a different plane could evolution qualify as a Gödel machine as well? A think evolution is recursively a Gödel machine. It learns how to create things that become better at learning how to create things that... Also, certain innovations fundamentally change the game, e.g. the emergence of genders.