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People Don’t Bribe College Officials for the Kids. They Do It to Help Themselves

18 points by imjk 8y ago

massivecali 8y ago
Why does this link directly to the article comments?
- imjk 8y ago
  Oh that's my fault. I must have been reading the comments when I grabbed the URL to share. The comments are interesting nonetheless though.
lostdog 8y ago
Readable link: http://archive.is/Nch8C http://archive.is/Nch8C
FourierTformed 8y ago
Where you go to school doesn't matter, it's what you do once you're there.
- gumby 8y ago
  If only that were true in the USA for the "top end" schools. In many other countries that is the case.
- marssaxman 8y ago
  Where you go to school matters quite a lot if what you're there to do is meet the kind of people who go to that kind of school.
- diffeomorphism 8y ago
  As far as learning is concerned, probably. As far as career opportunities go, no. Having gone to a "big name" school/university definitely opens doors.
  - jjeaff 8y ago
    Except the data and studies I am familiar with don't bare that out. There was no statistical increase in future earnings comparing those that went to an ivy league vs students who got in to ivy league but ended up going somewhere else. * And that doesn't take into account the fact that the ivy league probably cost a lot more. *There was actually a small income boost for ivy league for minorities.
- RobLach 8y ago
  Well, what you do in school is network so it does matter. I should also say, every school has passionate and ambitious people who will do great things. A better school just makes it easier to blindly stumble into those social circles.
JauntTrooper 8y ago
One of the strangest parts of this whole scandal was that these families felt they had to cheat to get their children in in the first place. A high schooler that built a digital business, a brand with 1.4 million followers and corporate sponsors is impressive, and I’d think there are many schools who would be really interested in her for their marketing or business programs. That’d make a heck of a college essay. Does she really also need to pretend to be on the crew team?
- diogenescynic 8y ago
  You don’t think her followers are fake too? I’m sure the fraud and lies go deeper than what we know.
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Few college admissions officers are going to see "lots of Instagram followers" as a legitimate business.

18 points by imjk 8y ago

massivecali 8y ago

Why does this link directly to the article comments?

imjk 8y ago
Oh that's my fault. I must have been reading the comments when I grabbed the URL to share. The comments are interesting nonetheless though.

lostdog 8y ago

Readable link: http://archive.is/Nch8C http://archive.is/Nch8C

FourierTformed 8y ago

Where you go to school doesn't matter, it's what you do once you're there.

gumby 8y ago
If only that were true in the USA for the "top end" schools. In many other countries that is the case.
marssaxman 8y ago
Where you go to school matters quite a lot if what you're there to do is meet the kind of people who go to that kind of school.
diffeomorphism 8y ago
As far as learning is concerned, probably. As far as career opportunities go, no. Having gone to a "big name" school/university definitely opens doors.
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Except the data and studies I am familiar with don't bare that out. There was no statistical increase in future earnings comparing those that went to an ivy league vs students who got in to ivy league but ended up going somewhere else. * And that doesn't take into account the fact that the ivy league probably cost a lot more. *There was actually a small income boost for ivy league for minorities.
RobLach 8y ago
Well, what you do in school is network so it does matter. I should also say, every school has passionate and ambitious people who will do great things. A better school just makes it easier to blindly stumble into those social circles.

JauntTrooper 8y ago

One of the strangest parts of this whole scandal was that these families felt they had to cheat to get their children in in the first place. A high schooler that built a digital business, a brand with 1.4 million followers and corporate sponsors is impressive, and I’d think there are many schools who would be really interested in her for their marketing or business programs. That’d make a heck of a college essay. Does she really also need to pretend to be on the crew team?

diogenescynic 8y ago
You don’t think her followers are fake too? I’m sure the fraud and lies go deeper than what we know.
jjeaff 8y ago
Few college admissions officers are going to see "lots of Instagram followers" as a legitimate business.