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Sorry. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

by palad1n 8y ago

dTal 8y ago
You should clarify in the text of your comment that the quote is apocryphal, as not everyone will click your link.
- palad1n 8y ago
  Apologies.
  - dTal 8y ago
    Oh no, just a friendly suggestion! I was about to post a similar comment myself, not realizing immediately that you'd beaten me to it.
jhbadger 8y ago
But a similar quote about the young is completely real -- just not by Socrates (who after all wrote nothing), but rather by Aristotle -- Book II, Part 12 of his "Rhetoric" has him complaining about young people -- it's a long passage, but some gems "They have exalted notions, because they have not yet been humbled by life or learnt its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things-and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning."
- dade_ 8y ago
  Youth unemployment explained in a quote: "They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones"
- zoom6628 8y ago
  "Millenials" described to a tee. Socrates quote was also pretty much right on. "Millenial" might be the most ingenious modern scam amongst software vendors, marketing, and every other person hangle their shingle and selling the millenials-are-unique nonsense. Ive ranted before about this but as the learned ancients have already spoken about it then it should be obvious to all by now - each generation is more lenient in its upbringing of the next generation, sees problems arise from that, and then tries to explain it away by any means other than accepting blame for the trouble self-inflicted. Im old enough to have seen this repeated 3x in my own lifetime and a small amount of reading can show to anybody else that this has been the case for over 2000 years. Neither Tim, Jeff, Satya, Richard or (name your fav 'modern' CEO here) can solve this. Its a human psychology problem which we have been happily creating, recognising, refusing blame for, and buying snake-oil solutions for, for as long as the world has had the written word. Wake up people. For the record: Im huge fan of freepascal but write most of my own code in python out of laziness(batteries included is powerful motivator for me). Sometimes dabble in C#, now learning ecmascript(again), and next trying again to learn nim and C. Father, product manager.
  - Zuider 8y ago
    In regard to ecmascript, have you considered Haxe?
    - zoom6628 8y ago
      Thanks for the reminder and yes i have Haxe on my 'to review' list.

Sorry. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

dTal 8y ago

You should clarify in the text of your comment that the quote is apocryphal, as not everyone will click your link.

palad1n 8y ago
Apologies.
- dTal 8y ago
  Oh no, just a friendly suggestion! I was about to post a similar comment myself, not realizing immediately that you'd beaten me to it.

jhbadger 8y ago

But a similar quote about the young is completely real -- just not by Socrates (who after all wrote nothing), but rather by Aristotle -- Book II, Part 12 of his "Rhetoric" has him complaining about young people -- it's a long passage, but some gems "They have exalted notions, because they have not yet been humbled by life or learnt its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things-and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning."

dade_ 8y ago
Youth unemployment explained in a quote: "They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones"
zoom6628 8y ago
"Millenials" described to a tee. Socrates quote was also pretty much right on. "Millenial" might be the most ingenious modern scam amongst software vendors, marketing, and every other person hangle their shingle and selling the millenials-are-unique nonsense. Ive ranted before about this but as the learned ancients have already spoken about it then it should be obvious to all by now - each generation is more lenient in its upbringing of the next generation, sees problems arise from that, and then tries to explain it away by any means other than accepting blame for the trouble self-inflicted. Im old enough to have seen this repeated 3x in my own lifetime and a small amount of reading can show to anybody else that this has been the case for over 2000 years. Neither Tim, Jeff, Satya, Richard or (name your fav 'modern' CEO here) can solve this. Its a human psychology problem which we have been happily creating, recognising, refusing blame for, and buying snake-oil solutions for, for as long as the world has had the written word. Wake up people. For the record: Im huge fan of freepascal but write most of my own code in python out of laziness(batteries included is powerful motivator for me). Sometimes dabble in C#, now learning ecmascript(again), and next trying again to learn nim and C. Father, product manager.
- Zuider 8y ago
  In regard to ecmascript, have you considered Haxe?
  - zoom6628 8y ago
    Thanks for the reminder and yes i have Haxe on my 'to review' list.