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To be honest, it’s not really all that unusual once you start paying attention to it — plenty of women have deeper voices than mine. I transitioned from male t
by exelius 8y ago
To be honest, it’s not really all that unusual once you start paying attention to it — plenty of women have deeper voices than mine.
I transitioned from male to female some years back and trained my voice from a deep, masculine voice to one solidly in the female range. Pitch is only one aspect of how we gender speech, and I think that’s why it feels off to you.
I would say this voice uses pretty male-coded speech patterns with a higher pitch than you’d normally hear a man speak in. The pattern of clear starts and stops between words and limited range of pitch used sounds “male” to my ears.
- Waterluvian 8y agoI'd guess you're noticing voices a lot more because of your efforts. I don't really notice at all, possibly because I'm not paying attention. I wonder if I heard the Q voice in normal usage (like on a phone system) I'd notice?
- exelius 8y agoI’d actually be interested to see how it performs under heavy voice compression (such as a phone system).
- YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago>> The pattern of clear starts and stops between words and limited range of pitch used sounds “male” to my ears. This sounds like an exaggerated stereotype of how men speak. Interestingly, the stereotype is different for men from Southern European countries who are said to speak in a sing-songy voice with vowels flowing together between words like vocal ligatures. For example, this stereotype is used for satirical effect in the following strip: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/automatic-business/ https://pbfcomics.com/comics/automatic-business/
- exelius 8y agoI wouldn’t say it’s particularly exaggerated; the “gay voice” is basically male pitch ranges with stereotypically feminine prosody and/or alliteration (I don’t say this as a mockery at all; there’s a documentary on Netflix that goes into the origins of this). Though I do agree that gender norms are largely cultural — but it doesn’t change the fact that a Spanish man sounds “gay” to most Americans.
- YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago>> Though I do agree that gender norms are largely cultural — but it doesn’t change the fact that a Spanish man sounds “gay” to most Americans. In that case, talking of a certain vocal style as being masculine or feminine, without a cultural qualifier, is meaningless. You should clarify that "this is how men speak in the US" or some such. I don't know if I'd take a Netflix documentary as evidence that a stereotype is accurate.
- exelius 8y agoThere’s ample SLP research and documentation on all of this and I think you’re battling a straw man. Edit: also your edit is just plain offensive. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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- YeGoblynQueenne 8y agoI deleted my edit not because I agree that it is offensive but because it goes into personal detail that I find unnecessary. Also, I discern in your comment the start of a certain aggression in such conversations that I find, frankly, disturbing. There is absolutely nothing in my comment that is addressed to you, personally, yet yours is becoming personal. To protect myself from what this can lead to, I will not contribute to this discussion any longer.
- exelius 8y agoOkay, so you post a transphobic rant trying to mansplain my trans experiences to me while calling someone “a transgendered”, then delete it, then pretend to take the high road? This is a topic you have demonstrated you have no knowledge on, yet chimed in like you did. Sometimes you should shut up and listen for a change.