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> it's well-accepted that the term "white nationalist" stands on its own and means something different from "white and a nationalist." Many right-wing people c

> it's well-accepted that the term "white nationalist" stands on its own and means something different from "white and a nationalist." Many right-wing people claim that in practice, there's not: they're accused of being "white nationalists" for being "white and a nationalist". Edit: If people downvoting me think I'm wrong, explain why people like Jordan Peterson, who merely espouse non-leftist positions and happen to be white, routinely get accused of supporting the alt-right and neo-Nazis. For the people who doubt what I'm saying -- here's a video of Jordan Peterson. This is who the leftists routinely call "neo-Nazis" or "alt-right": moderates who refute their positions and calmly assert values like personal responsibility over collectivist victimhood culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2bFzK2EdIo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2bFzK2EdIo Edit 2: I'd originally written "conservative"; I'm not sure Mr Peterson would describe himself in such terms. I've made it more neutral.

Multicomp 8y ago
"White nationalism" is an overloaded term and until tonight I'd never heard the official definition of white nationalism until GPs comments. I've just assumed it was a vague insult aimed at non-nominal conservatives.
- marmada 8y ago
  Not sure how you reached the conclusion that white nationalism doesn't have a real meaning. Googling "white nationalism" gives plenty of results that indicate "white nationalism" is an ideology that promotes white supremacy and/or a whites-only nation/racial segregation. To quote Merriam Webster: "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"
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  - Multicomp 8y ago
    To be clear, I stated that I'd never heard the official definition and used context clues to come up with a running (incorrect) definition. I am not of the opinion that white nationalism has no real meaning.
manfredo 8y ago
I concur that terms like "Nazi", "white nationalist", "alt-right" and similar have essentially morphed into "person I don't like". And this applies to both ends of the political spectrum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8
- josteink 8y ago
  > have essentially morphed into "person I don't like" I’d say it’s even closer to “people I disagree with”.
  - kgwgk 8y ago
    For many people the latter implies the former.

Multicomp 8y ago

"White nationalism" is an overloaded term and until tonight I'd never heard the official definition of white nationalism until GPs comments. I've just assumed it was a vague insult aimed at non-nominal conservatives.

marmada 8y ago
Not sure how you reached the conclusion that white nationalism doesn't have a real meaning. Googling "white nationalism" gives plenty of results that indicate "white nationalism" is an ideology that promotes white supremacy and/or a whites-only nation/racial segregation. To quote Merriam Webster: "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"
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- Multicomp 8y ago
  To be clear, I stated that I'd never heard the official definition and used context clues to come up with a running (incorrect) definition. I am not of the opinion that white nationalism has no real meaning.

manfredo 8y ago

I concur that terms like "Nazi", "white nationalist", "alt-right" and similar have essentially morphed into "person I don't like". And this applies to both ends of the political spectrum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8

josteink 8y ago
> have essentially morphed into "person I don't like" I’d say it’s even closer to “people I disagree with”.
- kgwgk 8y ago
  For many people the latter implies the former.