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The Chinese must be furious. I was at a local government plenary session at Chengdu (long story) a couple of year back. The lead speaker kept waxing about how
by luminati 8y ago
The Chinese must be furious.
I was at a local government plenary session at Chengdu (long story) a couple of year back. The lead speaker kept waxing about how China invented and contributed AI to the world.
I mentioned some points about about China's AI contributions/influence :
0. Algorithms -> The OGs as celebrated by this Turing Award (Canadian, but mostly led by American universities. On thing I did mention was due to the sheer factory production of Chinese PhDs, there is a lot of stuff arxiv from China )
1. Frameworks -> Tensorflow, PyTorch (American)
2. Hardware -> Nvidia (American)
3. Distribution -> Github (American)
4. Education -> Medium, Github, Youtube, Fast.ai (American)
5. Cloud -> AWS, Google, Azure (American)
China has some equivalent for all of them, ie. PaddlePaddle by Baidu, AliCloud, etc. but none of them have the reach, influence or domination of the American counterparts.
Suffice to say that my points weren't taken too well and have been disinvited since then.
- briga 8y agoDo you really think China has done anything on the level of these three? Basically every new neural network architecture in recent memory is underpinned by Hinton's work on back-propagation. China has done some fantastic work in ML, but I think the award was a long time coming for these three.
- scarejunba 8y agoIt's obvious he doesn't think China has done anything on the level of these three. Literally everything about his comment says that.
- hokumguru 8y agoDid you zero-index your list on purpose, or just out of habit?
- lainga 8y agoIt's an HN custom for, at least, references ([0], [1], ...)
- chillacy 8y agoI think the lead speaker was full of hot air, but let's not fall into the trap of overestimating the changes in 2 years and underestimating the changes in 10, assuming the US government doesn't have a response to china's AI initiatives.
- tomtung 8y agoChinese here. Can't help but amused by the assumed antagonism. Me and my friends who also work in this field are generally excited about ML/AI getting more recognition from the CS community at large btw.
- sytelus 8y agoThis is really quite silly. You have no idea how much of recent AI innovations and breakthroughs are coming from China. Many of the top AI conferences these days have quarter to half of the accepted papers originating from China. I am not even counting tremendous amount of contribution in all of above from the first generation Chinese living outside China.