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Fake news much? This quote related to people defending and opposing confederate monuments, not white nationalists. If you read even one more line of the quote,

by smsm42 8y ago

Fake news much? This quote related to people defending and opposing confederate monuments, not white nationalists. If you read even one more line of the quote, it becomes immediately clear: “You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,” Trump said. “The press has treated them absolutely unfairly.” “You also had some very fine people on both sides,” he said. Surely you can see, that "neo-Nazis and white nationalists" is one category, but "other than" is another, and "also very fine people" does not relate to white nationalists - it specifically excludes white nationalists, mentioning it as distinct group. That is immediately clear from reading just two lines of context.

harrumph 8y ago
> This quote related to people defending and opposing confederate monuments, not white nationalists. If this tortured, senseless interpretation is any example of your technique to differentiate between semantic objects in your software work, remind me to never, ever push your code to production without a shitload of extra testing.
- smsm42 8y ago
  I read the actual speech: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conference-transcript-charlottesville https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conferenc... It says, black on white: "You had people and i'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.". I conclude that if he says "I am not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists" that means he is not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists. You call it "tortured, senseless interpretation". I sincerely hope I never, ever will be in a position where you would review code that I need to get into production. Because I can only imagine what you'd see in a moderately complex code if you can't understand a simple phrase like "I'm not talking about X".
  - harrumph 8y ago
    > Because I can only imagine what you'd see in a moderately complex code if you can't understand a simple phrase like "I'm not talking about X" I grant you could imagine it, as your imagination is robust! You have somehow imagined that one meaningful category grouping exists here in spite of the fact that we all have eyes and can see actual events that took place that make it abundantly clear the grouping does not in any way exist. It is nothing less than a triumph of purest imagination when anyone states that in Charlottesville, separate from those white nationalists marching, rioting, firing guns into crowds, chanting Nazi slogans, carrying torches...we found a blameless group fairly described as "good people"...marching...alongside. Seriously, you're fired. Pack up your shit and get out. Around here we need people whose cognitive and ethical standards exceed the low bar set by Donald Trump.

by smsm42 8y ago

harrumph 8y ago

> This quote related to people defending and opposing confederate monuments, not white nationalists. If this tortured, senseless interpretation is any example of your technique to differentiate between semantic objects in your software work, remind me to never, ever push your code to production without a shitload of extra testing.

smsm42 8y ago
I read the actual speech: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conference-transcript-charlottesville https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conferenc... It says, black on white: "You had people and i'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.". I conclude that if he says "I am not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists" that means he is not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists. You call it "tortured, senseless interpretation". I sincerely hope I never, ever will be in a position where you would review code that I need to get into production. Because I can only imagine what you'd see in a moderately complex code if you can't understand a simple phrase like "I'm not talking about X".
- harrumph 8y ago
  > Because I can only imagine what you'd see in a moderately complex code if you can't understand a simple phrase like "I'm not talking about X" I grant you could imagine it, as your imagination is robust! You have somehow imagined that one meaningful category grouping exists here in spite of the fact that we all have eyes and can see actual events that took place that make it abundantly clear the grouping does not in any way exist. It is nothing less than a triumph of purest imagination when anyone states that in Charlottesville, separate from those white nationalists marching, rioting, firing guns into crowds, chanting Nazi slogans, carrying torches...we found a blameless group fairly described as "good people"...marching...alongside. Seriously, you're fired. Pack up your shit and get out. Around here we need people whose cognitive and ethical standards exceed the low bar set by Donald Trump.