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They do. Here is Richard Spencer mocking white nationalism: http://doesnoonehavevision.blogspot.com/2018/10/wanna-be-sith-lord-richard-spencer.html?m=1 http:/

They do. Here is Richard Spencer mocking white nationalism: http://doesnoonehavevision.blogspot.com/2018/10/wanna-be-sith-lord-richard-spencer.html?m=1 http://doesnoonehavevision.blogspot.com/2018/10/wanna-be-sit...

ceejayoz 8y ago
C'mon, that's an absurd misreading of those comments. > He says he rejects nationalism, independence, and sovereignty for Other Races. He thinks the Aryan Race, being a conquering and wandering global people, must destroy and dominate all the world. "I'm not a white nationalist because I want the entire world to be white-only" is a nonsense quibble on the terminology.
- ramblerouser 8y ago
  No, thats actually the entire point. White nationalists just want to be left alone in their own countries. White supremacists want to take over the world. Conflating the two is a racist attack on white people. Just apply the standard to any other group and that becomes obvious.
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    White nationalists are a subset of white supremacists who believe not only that whites are better than non-whites, but that this means they should kick the non-whites out (or exterminate them, in many cases). https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/nationalists-of-the-white-and-supremacist-variety-20170812 https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/nationalist... > Conflating the two is a racist attack on white people. I'm fairly sure I just sprained my eye muscles.
    - ramblerouser 8y ago
      Do chineese people wanting a homeland in their own country make them chinese supremacists? No. But you believe it does when white people do, and the contradiction makes your head spin. Thats called cognative dissonance.
      - ceejayoz 8y ago
        China's a pretty shitty example to pick to make your point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps Their actions against their ethnic minority groups are bad for the same sorts of reasons white nationalism is bad.
        ramblerouser 8y ago
        Ok. So take Tibet. They want political independence to stop mass immigration of the Han Chinese. Are they racist Tibetan supremacists? I suspect your response will be something about white people owning slaves 200 years ago.

ceejayoz 8y ago

C'mon, that's an absurd misreading of those comments. > He says he rejects nationalism, independence, and sovereignty for Other Races. He thinks the Aryan Race, being a conquering and wandering global people, must destroy and dominate all the world. "I'm not a white nationalist because I want the entire world to be white-only" is a nonsense quibble on the terminology.

ramblerouser 8y ago
No, thats actually the entire point. White nationalists just want to be left alone in their own countries. White supremacists want to take over the world. Conflating the two is a racist attack on white people. Just apply the standard to any other group and that becomes obvious.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  White nationalists are a subset of white supremacists who believe not only that whites are better than non-whites, but that this means they should kick the non-whites out (or exterminate them, in many cases). https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/nationalists-of-the-white-and-supremacist-variety-20170812 https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/nationalist... > Conflating the two is a racist attack on white people. I'm fairly sure I just sprained my eye muscles.
  - ramblerouser 8y ago
    Do chineese people wanting a homeland in their own country make them chinese supremacists? No. But you believe it does when white people do, and the contradiction makes your head spin. Thats called cognative dissonance.
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      China's a pretty shitty example to pick to make your point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps Their actions against their ethnic minority groups are bad for the same sorts of reasons white nationalism is bad.
      - ramblerouser 8y ago
        Ok. So take Tibet. They want political independence to stop mass immigration of the Han Chinese. Are they racist Tibetan supremacists? I suspect your response will be something about white people owning slaves 200 years ago.