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As an anti-racist conservative, the most fun I have on the internet these days is arguing racists out of their beliefs on the armpits of the internet. I relish

As an anti-racist conservative, the most fun I have on the internet these days is arguing racists out of their beliefs on the armpits of the internet. I relish my downvotes there. I would be bummed about these beliefs being banned everywhere because I wouldn't get to exercise my Internet debate skills to make a positive impact on the world without worrying about trampling on somebody's right to an echo chamber.

bdhe 8y ago
What does it mean to be an anti-racist conservative, and what do you think about the conservatism movement in that you have to use that extra qualifier?
- whatshisface 8y ago
  The vast majority of both conservatives and liberals are passive about the vast majority of issues. It would make sense that if you are actively seeking out specific conflicts, you can add an anti- prefix. If the parent specifically seeks out and engages with racists then they are much more anti-racist than the average person irrespective of political alignment. The conservative side definitely does not include "arguing with people on voat" as a platform.
  - bdhe 8y ago
    > The vast majority of both conservatives and liberals are passive about the vast majority of issues. While this might be true, it doesn't necessarily mean that the views held by conservatives and liberals as a whole are comparable. I cannot for the life of me imagine someone being called a pro-racist liberal, it just doesn't compute. But someone who looks the other way and claims to be conservative? Sure, plenty of those folks to go around. > The conservative side definitely does not include "arguing with people on voat" as a platform. While true, I think the author recognizes that sadly conservatism doesn't often include anti-racism in its platform which is what my comment was trying to highlight.
rexpop 8y ago
Most conservatives claim to be anti-racist, and then go on to support systemically racist institutions such as gentrification, police militarization, union-busting, or charter schools. What makes you actually anti-racist?
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- narrator 8y ago
  Not everyone has equal abilities. Societies function best when they are set up to find a place for everyone in a color blind way where they can live up to their full potential doing whatever they're adequately capable to do to contribute to society. On these boards many people believe all members of a given race have the qualities of their worst members. I try and dissuade them from this by showing many counterexamples and that they should really focus on convincing all member of society to call out bad behavior in whatever groups they associate and have influence with to improve society. My beef with progressives is there is too much special treatment given to ones own group just because they belong to that group by virtue of their birth and this allows bad behavior to go unpunished and uncondemed.
  - bdhe 8y ago
    > and this allows bad behavior to go unpunished and uncondemed. This is interesting, I haven't quite heard this before. What examples of bad behavior go unpunished or un-condemned beacuse of special treatment to a minority group?
    - narrator 8y ago
      A minority female music performer recently bragged about drugging and robbing men [1]. If a white man did this, his career and freedom would be over, but since she's a minority woman she may get a pass. Other minority women should call her out and criticize her and demand that she be brought to justice, and many conservative ones do, but there's a risk of the whole thing just blowing over because certain members of her affiliated groups are willing to give her a pass because of "her circumstances." [1] http://archive.fo/gzsKg http://archive.fo/gzsKg
fixermark 8y ago
I strongly suspect neither 4chan nor 8chan are going anywhere anytime soon.

bdhe 8y ago

What does it mean to be an anti-racist conservative, and what do you think about the conservatism movement in that you have to use that extra qualifier?

whatshisface 8y ago
The vast majority of both conservatives and liberals are passive about the vast majority of issues. It would make sense that if you are actively seeking out specific conflicts, you can add an anti- prefix. If the parent specifically seeks out and engages with racists then they are much more anti-racist than the average person irrespective of political alignment. The conservative side definitely does not include "arguing with people on voat" as a platform.
- bdhe 8y ago
  > The vast majority of both conservatives and liberals are passive about the vast majority of issues. While this might be true, it doesn't necessarily mean that the views held by conservatives and liberals as a whole are comparable. I cannot for the life of me imagine someone being called a pro-racist liberal, it just doesn't compute. But someone who looks the other way and claims to be conservative? Sure, plenty of those folks to go around. > The conservative side definitely does not include "arguing with people on voat" as a platform. While true, I think the author recognizes that sadly conservatism doesn't often include anti-racism in its platform which is what my comment was trying to highlight.

rexpop 8y ago

Most conservatives claim to be anti-racist, and then go on to support systemically racist institutions such as gentrification, police militarization, union-busting, or charter schools. What makes you actually anti-racist?

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narrator 8y ago
Not everyone has equal abilities. Societies function best when they are set up to find a place for everyone in a color blind way where they can live up to their full potential doing whatever they're adequately capable to do to contribute to society. On these boards many people believe all members of a given race have the qualities of their worst members. I try and dissuade them from this by showing many counterexamples and that they should really focus on convincing all member of society to call out bad behavior in whatever groups they associate and have influence with to improve society. My beef with progressives is there is too much special treatment given to ones own group just because they belong to that group by virtue of their birth and this allows bad behavior to go unpunished and uncondemed.
- bdhe 8y ago
  > and this allows bad behavior to go unpunished and uncondemed. This is interesting, I haven't quite heard this before. What examples of bad behavior go unpunished or un-condemned beacuse of special treatment to a minority group?
  - narrator 8y ago
    A minority female music performer recently bragged about drugging and robbing men [1]. If a white man did this, his career and freedom would be over, but since she's a minority woman she may get a pass. Other minority women should call her out and criticize her and demand that she be brought to justice, and many conservative ones do, but there's a risk of the whole thing just blowing over because certain members of her affiliated groups are willing to give her a pass because of "her circumstances." [1] http://archive.fo/gzsKg http://archive.fo/gzsKg

fixermark 8y ago

I strongly suspect neither 4chan nor 8chan are going anywhere anytime soon.