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I don't think you're going to get away from this. By living in and working in China, paying Chinese taxes, and supporting Chinese companies, you are directly su

I don't think you're going to get away from this. By living in and working in China, paying Chinese taxes, and supporting Chinese companies, you are directly supporting an authoritarian regeime.

bdamm 8y ago
As a Canadian living in and working in America, I have a similar although less dramatic moral difficulty. The fact is that the American government is curiously abusive compared to your average developed national government.
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
  As an American citizen I agree with you, but I think that the comparison to China is excessive and inappropriate - and serves as some kind of perverted justification for China's crimes against humanity.
  - dang 8y ago
    Please stop doing nationalistic flamewar on HN. The denunciatory rhetoric you've been invoking in this thread has no role in the kinds of conversations we're looking for here—it's a different sort of game, for a different sort of website. Since you're an experienced HN user, I'm sure you know this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ArrayList 8y ago
      What that comment said is true though. Does HN not value the truth?
- sealthedeal 8y ago
  Lmao get outta here with that trash
- refurb 8y ago
  Yet, you're living in the US. So I assume the positives outweigh the negatives?
  - bdamm 8y ago
    My personal experience has been very positive.
- jasonbarrah 8y ago
  One of these things is not like the other. You lack much perspective.
- wolco 8y ago
  As a Canadian we can only wish to have some of the freedoms the US offers. Property ownership is a right in America but in Canada it's a suggestion. In America you have freedom of speech in Canada you don't have that right but no one will both you practice. Think Canada could do better as the world's police force? Would have Canada handled 911 differently? Would Canada have invaded iraq? Would the middle east be better off without that war? The US takes a lot of heat but by not doing anything would things be worse. I don't think Canada is ready to handle that responsible. You need to be mature enough to do the good and bad. Canada just wants to do the good anything else that would taint that imagine in the collective mindset wouldn't be acceptable by the dominate few media narrative.
  - bdamm 8y ago
    It is not clear to me that US foreign policy has been good for the Middle East.
    - wolco 8y ago
      It should be clear. For it to be clear you need to see what the other timeline looks like. Perhaps war on the scale that pulls in the rest of the world. Regional powers are in check. Iran or Iraq were trying to get the bomb. Pakistan and India were on the edge of dropping a bomb on each other. Israel has been trying to get someone to attack Iran. Keeping warlords in power is easy but longterm it works against your interests. Having a free Iraq has changed the region. It has given voice to oppressed people. It probably has caused Turkey uproar over the Kurds in Turkey wanting to join with the Iraq Kurds. But that is to be expected.. each problem solved will reveal two more.

I don't think you're going to get away from this. By living in and working in China, paying Chinese taxes, and supporting Chinese companies, you are directly supporting an authoritarian regeime.

bdamm 8y ago

As a Canadian living in and working in America, I have a similar although less dramatic moral difficulty. The fact is that the American government is curiously abusive compared to your average developed national government.

Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
As an American citizen I agree with you, but I think that the comparison to China is excessive and inappropriate - and serves as some kind of perverted justification for China's crimes against humanity.
- dang 8y ago
  Please stop doing nationalistic flamewar on HN. The denunciatory rhetoric you've been invoking in this thread has no role in the kinds of conversations we're looking for here—it's a different sort of game, for a different sort of website. Since you're an experienced HN user, I'm sure you know this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ArrayList 8y ago
    What that comment said is true though. Does HN not value the truth?
sealthedeal 8y ago
Lmao get outta here with that trash
refurb 8y ago
Yet, you're living in the US. So I assume the positives outweigh the negatives?
- bdamm 8y ago
  My personal experience has been very positive.
jasonbarrah 8y ago
One of these things is not like the other. You lack much perspective.
wolco 8y ago
As a Canadian we can only wish to have some of the freedoms the US offers. Property ownership is a right in America but in Canada it's a suggestion. In America you have freedom of speech in Canada you don't have that right but no one will both you practice. Think Canada could do better as the world's police force? Would have Canada handled 911 differently? Would Canada have invaded iraq? Would the middle east be better off without that war? The US takes a lot of heat but by not doing anything would things be worse. I don't think Canada is ready to handle that responsible. You need to be mature enough to do the good and bad. Canada just wants to do the good anything else that would taint that imagine in the collective mindset wouldn't be acceptable by the dominate few media narrative.
- bdamm 8y ago
  It is not clear to me that US foreign policy has been good for the Middle East.
  - wolco 8y ago
    It should be clear. For it to be clear you need to see what the other timeline looks like. Perhaps war on the scale that pulls in the rest of the world. Regional powers are in check. Iran or Iraq were trying to get the bomb. Pakistan and India were on the edge of dropping a bomb on each other. Israel has been trying to get someone to attack Iran. Keeping warlords in power is easy but longterm it works against your interests. Having a free Iraq has changed the region. It has given voice to oppressed people. It probably has caused Turkey uproar over the Kurds in Turkey wanting to join with the Iraq Kurds. But that is to be expected.. each problem solved will reveal two more.