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HK has uncensored and fast internet. The language barrier can be a issue but English is still widely spoken, even in remote areas of HK like where I live. I kno

HK has uncensored and fast internet. The language barrier can be a issue but English is still widely spoken, even in remote areas of HK like where I live. I know enough Canto for numbers, food and the rare times I get a taxi. I can't ready anything though. There's a big question mark as 2047 looms closer, which is till when China promised to keep HK the way it is now (capitalism, different currency, open, legal system and so on).

philsnow 8y ago
> There's a big question mark as 2047 looms closer, which is till when China promised to keep HK the way it is now (capitalism, different currency, open, legal system and so on). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests They're not going to wait until 2047. Already many (most?) elementary schools in HK speak Mandarin instead of Cantonese.
- ralph84 8y ago
  Some elementary schools also have a non-trivial number of mainland children who cross the border every day for school. Birth tourism for mainlanders was big in HK (they've cracked down on it now) because Chinese born in HK automatically get HK permanent residence.
- chaostheory 8y ago
  > Already many (most?) elementary schools in HK speak Mandarin instead of Cantonese. Mandarin is far easier to learn and speak than Cantonese
  - philsnow 8y ago
    I don't know what you're getting at. Shouldn't they learn Spanish or something because it's "easier"?
    - chaostheory 8y ago
      It sounded like you lament transition the from Cantonese to Mandarin and you make it seem like a bad thing, near equivalent to the loss of rights and freedoms. I don't feel that way. Sarcasm aside, Spanish is not easier for Chinese people since barely anyone speaks it in Asia other than nouns in the Philippines. Mandarin is easier because it's already the primary language for most Chinese people and not just the mainland. It's also generally easier to speak and understand compared to Cantonese. Having one standard language is an advantage vs having a million "dialects". There are many bad things about the HK handover. Standardizing on Mandarin is not one of them.
      - philsnow 8y ago
        Language attrition is a real thing, and it's terrible. Erasing the language erases part of the culture that makes Hong Kong unique and interesting. It's a poverty to do so.

philsnow 8y ago

> There's a big question mark as 2047 looms closer, which is till when China promised to keep HK the way it is now (capitalism, different currency, open, legal system and so on). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests They're not going to wait until 2047. Already many (most?) elementary schools in HK speak Mandarin instead of Cantonese.

ralph84 8y ago
Some elementary schools also have a non-trivial number of mainland children who cross the border every day for school. Birth tourism for mainlanders was big in HK (they've cracked down on it now) because Chinese born in HK automatically get HK permanent residence.
chaostheory 8y ago
> Already many (most?) elementary schools in HK speak Mandarin instead of Cantonese. Mandarin is far easier to learn and speak than Cantonese
- philsnow 8y ago
  I don't know what you're getting at. Shouldn't they learn Spanish or something because it's "easier"?
  - chaostheory 8y ago
    It sounded like you lament transition the from Cantonese to Mandarin and you make it seem like a bad thing, near equivalent to the loss of rights and freedoms. I don't feel that way. Sarcasm aside, Spanish is not easier for Chinese people since barely anyone speaks it in Asia other than nouns in the Philippines. Mandarin is easier because it's already the primary language for most Chinese people and not just the mainland. It's also generally easier to speak and understand compared to Cantonese. Having one standard language is an advantage vs having a million "dialects". There are many bad things about the HK handover. Standardizing on Mandarin is not one of them.
    - philsnow 8y ago
      Language attrition is a real thing, and it's terrible. Erasing the language erases part of the culture that makes Hong Kong unique and interesting. It's a poverty to do so.