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Debt-related blacklists have been around before China's cabinet announced its intention to set up a nation-wide social credit system by 2020, but they ARE part

Debt-related blacklists have been around before China's cabinet announced its intention to set up a nation-wide social credit system by 2020, but they ARE part of the social credit system. They're not exclusionary.

oska 8y ago
Just a remark from someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight: I found your dogmatic refutations above using all caps IS & ARE not particularly confidence inspiring nor terribly professional. Would not have made this remark about an ordinary commenter but I would expect better from an editor.
- alanwong 8y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I had intended the styling for emphasis, but I can imagine how it might not communicate well with some people. My refutations are based on clearly worded, non-ambiguous official documents characterizing court ordered blacklists as part of China's social credit system. Here's the Chinese Supreme People's Court's website. http://shixin.court.gov.cn/index.html http://shixin.court.gov.cn/index.html The statement front and center explains that the blacklists are promulgated "to promote the building of a social credit system." For a more comprehensive look at what China's social credit system is and what its components are, I recommend this site: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/social-credit-documents/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/social-credit-documents...
  - oska 8y ago
    And thank you for this professional reply.
dis-sys 8y ago
By looking at your NH submissions, 15 out of the latest 30 submissions were China related and all of them were negative news. Please stop calling what you do is journalism - it is nothing else but China bashing.
- alanwong 8y ago
  You're making a personal attack and a false statement. How can this, for example, be considered "China bashing"? > China, undisputed king of electric transport (inkstonenews.com)
  - dis-sys 8y ago
    Mentioned data is here - https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong 15 out of the most recent 30 submissions from your account are China related news, 94% of them are negative. Citing such publicly available stats that can be easily verified by the public is now considered as personal attack? Keep arguing whether 94% or 100% of your submissions are negative doesn't really change anything. Maybe inkstonenews.com only publish negative China related news articles or you intentionally only submit those negative ones from inkstonenews.com to NH? What is the story here?
    - alanwong 8y ago
      No, I didn’t refer to your citing of my previous submissions as a personal attack. I referred to a different part of your comment, since deleted. Anyway, this exchange doesn’t add any value to the discussion. Have a nice and peaceful day.
      - dis-sys 8y ago
        60% of your submissions are news about China, 94% of them are negative ones. You then mention the word "peaceful", dear god, that is something you need to seek very hard. I am asking something very simple here - how submitting all negative news adding value to the NH? Are you suggesting that only negative news related to China are considered as newsworthy by you and your site? Or maybe all news come out of China are negative?

oska 8y ago

Just a remark from someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight: I found your dogmatic refutations above using all caps IS & ARE not particularly confidence inspiring nor terribly professional. Would not have made this remark about an ordinary commenter but I would expect better from an editor.

alanwong 8y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I had intended the styling for emphasis, but I can imagine how it might not communicate well with some people. My refutations are based on clearly worded, non-ambiguous official documents characterizing court ordered blacklists as part of China's social credit system. Here's the Chinese Supreme People's Court's website. http://shixin.court.gov.cn/index.html http://shixin.court.gov.cn/index.html The statement front and center explains that the blacklists are promulgated "to promote the building of a social credit system." For a more comprehensive look at what China's social credit system is and what its components are, I recommend this site: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/social-credit-documents/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/social-credit-documents...
- oska 8y ago
  And thank you for this professional reply.

dis-sys 8y ago

By looking at your NH submissions, 15 out of the latest 30 submissions were China related and all of them were negative news. Please stop calling what you do is journalism - it is nothing else but China bashing.

alanwong 8y ago
You're making a personal attack and a false statement. How can this, for example, be considered "China bashing"? > China, undisputed king of electric transport (inkstonenews.com)
- dis-sys 8y ago
  Mentioned data is here - https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=alanwong 15 out of the most recent 30 submissions from your account are China related news, 94% of them are negative. Citing such publicly available stats that can be easily verified by the public is now considered as personal attack? Keep arguing whether 94% or 100% of your submissions are negative doesn't really change anything. Maybe inkstonenews.com only publish negative China related news articles or you intentionally only submit those negative ones from inkstonenews.com to NH? What is the story here?
  - alanwong 8y ago
    No, I didn’t refer to your citing of my previous submissions as a personal attack. I referred to a different part of your comment, since deleted. Anyway, this exchange doesn’t add any value to the discussion. Have a nice and peaceful day.
    - dis-sys 8y ago
      60% of your submissions are news about China, 94% of them are negative ones. You then mention the word "peaceful", dear god, that is something you need to seek very hard. I am asking something very simple here - how submitting all negative news adding value to the NH? Are you suggesting that only negative news related to China are considered as newsworthy by you and your site? Or maybe all news come out of China are negative?