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Show HN: IP-Api.io – Geolocation by IP

36 points by awesomeowen 8y ago

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yodon 8y ago
Off by 61 miles (Country and State are correct)
- ediardo 8y ago
  It was very accurate in my case. Zip Code was right.
- sdwisely 8y ago
  about 50-60 miles off for me too
- tsukurimashou 8y ago
  Completely off for me, it says "Venezuela" my IP is from France
- martin_a 8y ago
  Around 400 km for me.
- fasteo 8y ago
  Off by 1.700Km for me (London/UK vs Madrid/Spain) Edit: MaxMind got it right.
bwasti 8y ago
The pricing is a bit confusing: €10/m for 100k queries €45/m for 300k queries Can I just make 3 accounts and save €15/m?
- zamadatix 8y ago
  Agreed, €25/m makes much more sense for that tier than 45. And to be honest why even have 3 tiers if for an additional 8% on the second tier you get 3.33x more anyways?
- awesomeowen 8y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, pricing can be improved for sure.
- ezekg 8y ago
  I think the last 2 tiers are even more confusing: 45 for 300,000, or 49 for 1mm. Doesn't make sense. That second tier definitely needs to be priced lower, or the last tier needs to be higher.
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codezero 8y ago
MaxMind is ridiculously cheap, and has solid public metrics on their own accuracy. What is this bringing to the table?
- nodesocket 8y ago
  Does the default MaxMind GeoIP provide isProxy: false, isTorNode: false, isSpam: false, isSuspicious: false though?
  - saurik 8y ago
    No, but those kinds of flags are typically provided by DNSBL APIs.
    - tpetry 8y ago
      Which dnsbl provide this data? Have been searching for it for a long time.
      - mobilemidget 8y ago
        Here is a nice list of all sorts of dnsbl sources, http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/12.23.34.56.html http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/12.23.34.56.html
derN3rd 8y ago
We use IP-api.com and have unlimited queries for 15€/month. Worked pretty well for us
- mobilemidget 8y ago
  Just curious, do you have an estimate of average queries per month or day you are actually using at them?
  - derN3rd 8y ago
    We have around 2.1 mio queries per day, because we cache ip-loc data locally. otherwise it would be around 30-50 mio q/d
- Semaphor 8y ago
  Same. And they also have a more comprehensive API (though less fields, but as we never need more than lat, long, country and ZIP that is fine.
mjmasn 8y ago
Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the capital of Wales is not London...
- mobilemidget 8y ago
  is_in_european_union: true, that one is still correct? ;)
  - martin_a 8y ago
    Nobody really know that. Could change any day.
aboutruby 8y ago
> Free plan ‐ 12000 queries per month That's nice. Maybe a free plan without an API key would be nice to try without registration. Also you might want to integrate it to geocoder ip lookup: https://github.com/alexreisner/geocoder https://github.com/alexreisner/geocoder
- kreetx 8y ago
  For the free plan the API key is probably needed to count how many requests you do. Free plan without entering a credit card on the other hand would be great. :)
mohitmun 8y ago
How does tools like this work? Is it triangulated by pinging from different location?
- shanehoban 8y ago
  From what I understand, which admittedly is not much, I believe it is actually a database lookup service that references sections of; or perhaps the whole IP that has been previously recorded as from country X. I think countries themselves have ranges of IPs allocated to them, but again, not my area of expertise.
  - q3k 8y ago
    No, countries don't have ranges allocated to them. RIRs (ARIN, RIPE, AFNIC, APNIC) do, and then they distribute those blocks to LIRs (ISPs) in their coverage area. However, now with IPv4 block exhaustion, it's common to port old PI v4 address space across RIRs, or for RIRs to donate blocks to eachother, so there isn't any guarantee about address mapping to continents even. You can always use `whois` on an IP address from a command line to get all the public records about it that you need. This will have information about the RIR, LIR, and potentially end-user of the block.
    - shanehoban 8y ago
      Ah I see, interesting, thanks!
- q3k 8y ago
  This very likely uses whois/IRR entries and some heuristics to make sense of them. Thus, it is more about which ISP an IP address block belongs to rather than who the physical end user is. q3k@anathema ~ $ whois 185.236.240.1 | egrep '(address|org-name)' org-name: Stowarzyszenie "Warszawski Hackerspace" [...] address: Warszawa q3k@anathema ~ $ curl -s https://ip-api.io/json/185.236.240.1 | jq .organisation,.country_name "Stowarzyszenie Warszawski Hackerspace" "Poland" However, this generally doesn't work for multinational ISPs that have blocks in different countries. For instance, take this Google IP address that I got when I spun up a VM in their Belgium DC: q3k@anathema ~ $ curl -s https://ip-api.io/json/104.155.39.247 | jq .organisation,.country_name "Google LLC" "United States"
petercooper 8y ago
This looks really nice and the landing page is great. I love that they have code demos right there. I currently use and love https://ipdata.co/ https://ipdata.co/ which is very similar in terms of features and pricing so I see no compelling reason to move, but it's great to see more entrants into this space especially if it causes more innovation and data types to be added.
- kreetx 8y ago
  I just tried to get an API key at ipdata.co, but their onboarding could use some work: I registered, got some error, but still a verification email came. Clicked on the link, but now can't find a way to continue - either login or get a key some other way. EDIT: nevermind, they send it through email..
timvdalen 8y ago
Cool! The flag images don't seem to work.
- awesomeowen 8y ago
  Thanks, fixed!
carolarouge 8y ago
I find monthly billing of usage based services to be very user unfriendly: * I pay for 100,000 queries even though I made only 50,000. * I need to upgrade as soon as my usage goes over the plan limit. And then, I need to remember to downgrade. Be fair, charge by usage.
- awesomeowen 8y ago
  Fair point. I'll check if such setup will work with Paddle.
coderholic 8y ago
If you're looking for an IP geolocation API you should also check us out at https://ipinfo.io https://ipinfo.io - we're free for up to 1k req/day, handle over 12 billion requests per month, and have been around for over 6 years. You can play with our data on our homepage, and for the free plan you don't even need a token, just `curl ipinfo.io` We also have APIs to get IP ranges for companies, to get domains hosted on the same IP, and more. See https://ipinfo.io/developers https://ipinfo.io/developers
happppy 8y ago
How it works at backend? Where do you get all this info from? I am really curious.

36 points by awesomeowen 8y ago

deleted 8y ago

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yodon 8y ago

Off by 61 miles (Country and State are correct)

ediardo 8y ago
It was very accurate in my case. Zip Code was right.
sdwisely 8y ago
about 50-60 miles off for me too
tsukurimashou 8y ago
Completely off for me, it says "Venezuela" my IP is from France
martin_a 8y ago
Around 400 km for me.
fasteo 8y ago
Off by 1.700Km for me (London/UK vs Madrid/Spain) Edit: MaxMind got it right.

bwasti 8y ago

The pricing is a bit confusing: €10/m for 100k queries €45/m for 300k queries Can I just make 3 accounts and save €15/m?

zamadatix 8y ago
Agreed, €25/m makes much more sense for that tier than 45. And to be honest why even have 3 tiers if for an additional 8% on the second tier you get 3.33x more anyways?
awesomeowen 8y ago
Thanks for the feedback, pricing can be improved for sure.
ezekg 8y ago
I think the last 2 tiers are even more confusing: 45 for 300,000, or 49 for 1mm. Doesn't make sense. That second tier definitely needs to be priced lower, or the last tier needs to be higher.

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codezero 8y ago

MaxMind is ridiculously cheap, and has solid public metrics on their own accuracy. What is this bringing to the table?

nodesocket 8y ago
Does the default MaxMind GeoIP provide isProxy: false, isTorNode: false, isSpam: false, isSuspicious: false though?
- saurik 8y ago
  No, but those kinds of flags are typically provided by DNSBL APIs.
  - tpetry 8y ago
    Which dnsbl provide this data? Have been searching for it for a long time.
    - mobilemidget 8y ago
      Here is a nice list of all sorts of dnsbl sources, http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/12.23.34.56.html http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/12.23.34.56.html

derN3rd 8y ago

We use IP-api.com and have unlimited queries for 15€/month. Worked pretty well for us

mobilemidget 8y ago
Just curious, do you have an estimate of average queries per month or day you are actually using at them?
- derN3rd 8y ago
  We have around 2.1 mio queries per day, because we cache ip-loc data locally. otherwise it would be around 30-50 mio q/d
Semaphor 8y ago
Same. And they also have a more comprehensive API (though less fields, but as we never need more than lat, long, country and ZIP that is fine.

mjmasn 8y ago

Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the capital of Wales is not London...

mobilemidget 8y ago
is_in_european_union: true, that one is still correct? ;)
- martin_a 8y ago
  Nobody really know that. Could change any day.

aboutruby 8y ago

> Free plan ‐ 12000 queries per month That's nice. Maybe a free plan without an API key would be nice to try without registration. Also you might want to integrate it to geocoder ip lookup: https://github.com/alexreisner/geocoder https://github.com/alexreisner/geocoder

kreetx 8y ago
For the free plan the API key is probably needed to count how many requests you do. Free plan without entering a credit card on the other hand would be great. :)

mohitmun 8y ago

How does tools like this work? Is it triangulated by pinging from different location?

shanehoban 8y ago
From what I understand, which admittedly is not much, I believe it is actually a database lookup service that references sections of; or perhaps the whole IP that has been previously recorded as from country X. I think countries themselves have ranges of IPs allocated to them, but again, not my area of expertise.
- q3k 8y ago
  No, countries don't have ranges allocated to them. RIRs (ARIN, RIPE, AFNIC, APNIC) do, and then they distribute those blocks to LIRs (ISPs) in their coverage area. However, now with IPv4 block exhaustion, it's common to port old PI v4 address space across RIRs, or for RIRs to donate blocks to eachother, so there isn't any guarantee about address mapping to continents even. You can always use `whois` on an IP address from a command line to get all the public records about it that you need. This will have information about the RIR, LIR, and potentially end-user of the block.
  - shanehoban 8y ago
    Ah I see, interesting, thanks!
q3k 8y ago
This very likely uses whois/IRR entries and some heuristics to make sense of them. Thus, it is more about which ISP an IP address block belongs to rather than who the physical end user is. q3k@anathema ~ $ whois 185.236.240.1 | egrep '(address|org-name)' org-name: Stowarzyszenie "Warszawski Hackerspace" [...] address: Warszawa q3k@anathema ~ $ curl -s https://ip-api.io/json/185.236.240.1 | jq .organisation,.country_name "Stowarzyszenie Warszawski Hackerspace" "Poland" However, this generally doesn't work for multinational ISPs that have blocks in different countries. For instance, take this Google IP address that I got when I spun up a VM in their Belgium DC: q3k@anathema ~ $ curl -s https://ip-api.io/json/104.155.39.247 | jq .organisation,.country_name "Google LLC" "United States"

petercooper 8y ago

This looks really nice and the landing page is great. I love that they have code demos right there. I currently use and love https://ipdata.co/ https://ipdata.co/ which is very similar in terms of features and pricing so I see no compelling reason to move, but it's great to see more entrants into this space especially if it causes more innovation and data types to be added.

kreetx 8y ago
I just tried to get an API key at ipdata.co, but their onboarding could use some work: I registered, got some error, but still a verification email came. Clicked on the link, but now can't find a way to continue - either login or get a key some other way. EDIT: nevermind, they send it through email..

timvdalen 8y ago

Cool! The flag images don't seem to work.

awesomeowen 8y ago
Thanks, fixed!

carolarouge 8y ago

I find monthly billing of usage based services to be very user unfriendly: * I pay for 100,000 queries even though I made only 50,000. * I need to upgrade as soon as my usage goes over the plan limit. And then, I need to remember to downgrade. Be fair, charge by usage.

awesomeowen 8y ago
Fair point. I'll check if such setup will work with Paddle.

coderholic 8y ago

If you're looking for an IP geolocation API you should also check us out at https://ipinfo.io https://ipinfo.io - we're free for up to 1k req/day, handle over 12 billion requests per month, and have been around for over 6 years. You can play with our data on our homepage, and for the free plan you don't even need a token, just `curl ipinfo.io` We also have APIs to get IP ranges for companies, to get domains hosted on the same IP, and more. See https://ipinfo.io/developers https://ipinfo.io/developers

happppy 8y ago

How it works at backend? Where do you get all this info from? I am really curious.