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Email is actively dying and being replaced by closed alternatives (Messenger, Slack, etc) and any effort by any company to keep it alive should be applauded, in

by s17n 8y ago

Email is actively dying and being replaced by closed alternatives (Messenger, Slack, etc) and any effort by any company to keep it alive should be applauded, including this one. That being said I can't imagine a scenario where AMP in email is anything but annoying.

jakeogh 8y ago
"keep it alive" Google's record is one of infect and close. It might seem unrelated, but disabling JS is the real fix.
sergiosgc 8y ago
Instant messaging and email serve different use cases. Synchronous and ephemeral vs asynchronous and permanent.
paganel 8y ago
I still can find emails in my mailbox that I've sent or received 10 or 15 years ago while on the other hand I have pretty big issues with finding the exact message I sent on FB Messenger only a day ago (it involves lots of scrolling), never mind a couple of years (Skype presents the the same issue for me). I guess Slack behaves the same way as FB Messenger (I haven't personally used it).
- s17n 8y ago
  Yes, this is why we need to support email. You can list its advantages all day long but if people don't check their email (or don't even have an email account), then it will be useless and that's the direction we're headed.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    I don't agree that's the direction we're headed. But if it is, and if something like AMP is what's needed to "save" it, that result is the same as it being dead for me, personally.
romwell 8y ago
>Email is actively dying and being replaced by closed alternatives (Messenger, Slack, etc) No it's not. Slack and Messenger are replacing IRC. Ever tried writing an actual letter to someone? If you forgot what those are, think a longform article, but with the intended audience of 1. No messenger handles long passages of text well, because they are not designed to do that. And things like online status visibility are anti-features when it comes to letters. If you want an exchange channel that's optimized for exchanging long messages, with no expectation of immediacy in response, with ridiculously accessible archival tools (ever heard of email clients?) there isn't anything that comes close to email.
- s17n 8y ago
  >If you want an exchange channel that's optimized for exchanging long messages, with no expectation of immediacy in response, with ridiculously accessible archival tools (ever heard of email clients?) there isn't anything that comes close to email. Yeah, but if most people you know don't have active email accounts, that doesn't matter, and it's the direction that we're headed.
  - romwell 8y ago
    >if most people you know don't have active email accounts You and I are living in very different worlds if that's the case. A lot of my friends are not using Messenger or anything FB-owned. Nobody I know actively uses Slack off-work. Everyone has an email. For quite a few of my friends, that's the primary way of reaching them.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    > if most people you know don't have active email accounts, that doesn't matter, and it's the direction that we're headed. I think some evidence is required to support this claim.
JohnFen 8y ago
> Email is actively dying Not as far as I can tell. But even if it is, this sounds more like a killing blow than something that would keep it alive.

by s17n 8y ago

jakeogh 8y ago

"keep it alive" Google's record is one of infect and close. It might seem unrelated, but disabling JS is the real fix.

sergiosgc 8y ago

Instant messaging and email serve different use cases. Synchronous and ephemeral vs asynchronous and permanent.

paganel 8y ago

I still can find emails in my mailbox that I've sent or received 10 or 15 years ago while on the other hand I have pretty big issues with finding the exact message I sent on FB Messenger only a day ago (it involves lots of scrolling), never mind a couple of years (Skype presents the the same issue for me). I guess Slack behaves the same way as FB Messenger (I haven't personally used it).

s17n 8y ago
Yes, this is why we need to support email. You can list its advantages all day long but if people don't check their email (or don't even have an email account), then it will be useless and that's the direction we're headed.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  I don't agree that's the direction we're headed. But if it is, and if something like AMP is what's needed to "save" it, that result is the same as it being dead for me, personally.

romwell 8y ago

>Email is actively dying and being replaced by closed alternatives (Messenger, Slack, etc) No it's not. Slack and Messenger are replacing IRC. Ever tried writing an actual letter to someone? If you forgot what those are, think a longform article, but with the intended audience of 1. No messenger handles long passages of text well, because they are not designed to do that. And things like online status visibility are anti-features when it comes to letters. If you want an exchange channel that's optimized for exchanging long messages, with no expectation of immediacy in response, with ridiculously accessible archival tools (ever heard of email clients?) there isn't anything that comes close to email.

s17n 8y ago
>If you want an exchange channel that's optimized for exchanging long messages, with no expectation of immediacy in response, with ridiculously accessible archival tools (ever heard of email clients?) there isn't anything that comes close to email. Yeah, but if most people you know don't have active email accounts, that doesn't matter, and it's the direction that we're headed.
- romwell 8y ago
  >if most people you know don't have active email accounts You and I are living in very different worlds if that's the case. A lot of my friends are not using Messenger or anything FB-owned. Nobody I know actively uses Slack off-work. Everyone has an email. For quite a few of my friends, that's the primary way of reaching them.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  > if most people you know don't have active email accounts, that doesn't matter, and it's the direction that we're headed. I think some evidence is required to support this claim.

JohnFen 8y ago

> Email is actively dying Not as far as I can tell. But even if it is, this sounds more like a killing blow than something that would keep it alive.