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In knowing the original track very well, I find this version fascinating but also frustrating to listen to. It really emphasizes for me the importance of well

In knowing the original track very well, I find this version fascinating but also frustrating to listen to. It really emphasizes for me the importance of well thought out note placement and timing and the connection throughout, especially in minimalist pieces. This might sound pompous, but it's like the original seeks to tell a story, but this version is like pulling words and phrases out of a hat; the emotional payoff doesn't exist for me. I hope that's not discouraging in any way, as I think this type of experimentation should be celebrated and the writeup is excellent. I'm only speaking of what effect this has on me tied to this particular piece of music.

alexbainter 8y ago
I know what you mean and I don't find it discouraging at all. Your analogy is perfect. The way the original piece evolves and builds on its phrases over time is very noticeably lacking in the generative version. In my version, any emotional buildup from one phrase to the next can only happen in short spurts at best, and it happens completely by accident. Of course, if I was putting on music that I wanted to really focus on and enjoy, the original would always be my choice. For me, the appeal of an endless version was that I could turn the music into ignorable ambience for my environment. Since we're making analogies, to me it's a bit like seeing a painting you like and saying "Gosh I like that color," then painting your walls that color. It can't compare to the painting but it might remind you of it.
afro88 8y ago
Came here to say this. The generative version has no story, so the emotional aspect is quite watered down, even if the general mood persists. Funnily enough, that is probably perfect for the use case of this kind of thing: background music. Given that the way the phrases evolve, and also repeat, is what tells the story, maybe a second layer of markov chain driving the phrase choices would help?
budgi4 8y ago
The story can only come from understanding the piece. The understanding requires a deeper knowledge. Interesting that it lacks 'emotional intelligence' - is that something which can also be learnt?

alexbainter 8y ago

I know what you mean and I don't find it discouraging at all. Your analogy is perfect. The way the original piece evolves and builds on its phrases over time is very noticeably lacking in the generative version. In my version, any emotional buildup from one phrase to the next can only happen in short spurts at best, and it happens completely by accident. Of course, if I was putting on music that I wanted to really focus on and enjoy, the original would always be my choice. For me, the appeal of an endless version was that I could turn the music into ignorable ambience for my environment. Since we're making analogies, to me it's a bit like seeing a painting you like and saying "Gosh I like that color," then painting your walls that color. It can't compare to the painting but it might remind you of it.

afro88 8y ago

Came here to say this. The generative version has no story, so the emotional aspect is quite watered down, even if the general mood persists. Funnily enough, that is probably perfect for the use case of this kind of thing: background music. Given that the way the phrases evolve, and also repeat, is what tells the story, maybe a second layer of markov chain driving the phrase choices would help?

budgi4 8y ago

The story can only come from understanding the piece. The understanding requires a deeper knowledge. Interesting that it lacks 'emotional intelligence' - is that something which can also be learnt?