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I've heard this before, but between myself and nine of my friends who regular a Mumble server, none of us ever had much difficulty using it. I've always thought

by keb_ 8y ago

I've heard this before, but between myself and nine of my friends who regular a Mumble server, none of us ever had much difficulty using it. I've always thought it was simple and relatively intuitive. What about it do you find difficult as a user?

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alyandon 8y ago
From what I vaguely recall experimenting with Mumble years ago - my biggest gripe was the lack of support for anything other certificate based user authentication which complicates the common case of "User X would like to be able to access Mumble from multiple machines".
- keb_ 8y ago
  You can export and import certificate files across machines. I've done something like this in the past, and found little issue. I prefer this to something like Discord's centralized account & server system, although I know there should be better alternatives for achieving decentralization.
  - alyandon 8y ago
    Right. The problem was is that the majority of my users were non-technical. So I was left with the choice of: 1) picking voip software that supports username/password authentication that they would be familiar with since virtually every other service on the internet works in a similar fashion vs 2) picking Mumble and trying to explain to them how to import/export their identity certificates for all their owned devices and also explaining that they need to keep the cert handy on a flash drive or store it in the cloud so that they can import it on machines that they might not own
    - dcbadacd 8y ago
      Yeah, there should be option in the server to permit multiple clients with the same username.
    - vxNsr 8y ago
      > import/export their identity certificates Experienced this for the first time last year when I started my current job at a company that is still using lotus notes. I get that it's possibly more secure than username/password but dang is it annoying.
  - urda 8y ago
    Most common users aren't even aware this is a thing, let alone how a CA or Certificate works. So there the setup stops, because certificates are foreign and scary to some users. Discord? Just a e-mail / username / password login like any other online service. It's a huge tripping point in Mumble, and for sure holds it back from use.
    - literallycancer 8y ago
      You can just let anyone who knows the password join the server, or even a specific room?
      - LinuxBender 8y ago
        Yes. Certs are for identity which is only required if you need to create/manage channels or if a channel ACL is set to require registered or specific users. You can create public channels.

by keb_ 8y ago

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alyandon 8y ago

From what I vaguely recall experimenting with Mumble years ago - my biggest gripe was the lack of support for anything other certificate based user authentication which complicates the common case of "User X would like to be able to access Mumble from multiple machines".

keb_ 8y ago
You can export and import certificate files across machines. I've done something like this in the past, and found little issue. I prefer this to something like Discord's centralized account & server system, although I know there should be better alternatives for achieving decentralization.
- alyandon 8y ago
  Right. The problem was is that the majority of my users were non-technical. So I was left with the choice of: 1) picking voip software that supports username/password authentication that they would be familiar with since virtually every other service on the internet works in a similar fashion vs 2) picking Mumble and trying to explain to them how to import/export their identity certificates for all their owned devices and also explaining that they need to keep the cert handy on a flash drive or store it in the cloud so that they can import it on machines that they might not own
  - dcbadacd 8y ago
    Yeah, there should be option in the server to permit multiple clients with the same username.
  - vxNsr 8y ago
    > import/export their identity certificates Experienced this for the first time last year when I started my current job at a company that is still using lotus notes. I get that it's possibly more secure than username/password but dang is it annoying.
- urda 8y ago
  Most common users aren't even aware this is a thing, let alone how a CA or Certificate works. So there the setup stops, because certificates are foreign and scary to some users. Discord? Just a e-mail / username / password login like any other online service. It's a huge tripping point in Mumble, and for sure holds it back from use.
  - literallycancer 8y ago
    You can just let anyone who knows the password join the server, or even a specific room?
    - LinuxBender 8y ago
      Yes. Certs are for identity which is only required if you need to create/manage channels or if a channel ACL is set to require registered or specific users. You can create public channels.