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Don't use platforms them. Host it yourself.

wvenable 8y ago
You have to host somewhere!!! Ever gotten an abuse email from the data center holding your physical hardware? I have. My tiny forum that has 50 participants max actually has a filter to prevent anyone from using the word "Elton".
- phinnaeus 8y ago
  It's simple, just get a static IP and host it on your home internet. Unless your ISP decides to shut you down. Then just setup your own ISP and datacenter and get your own peering agreements! /s
- isostatic 8y ago
  > You have to host somewhere!!! Ever gotten an abuse email from the data center holding your physical hardware? No This law does nothing to change that in any case. Get a (US law) DMCA takedown, and ignore it, job done.
  - wvenable 8y ago
    No, this law changes nothing. But also hosting your own changes nothing. You can ignore a DMCA takedown but maybe your host won't. And from my experience, hosts don't care that much -- they'd rather toss you than deal with legal issues.
    - isostatic 8y ago
      Use a host that ignores the DMCA -- why would a bad american law apply to the majority of the internet? Now that americans are realising that other countries exist, and make laws like the DMCA, maybe they'll stop doing it.
phinnaeus 8y ago
I think it is completely absurd to expect every content creator, with their diverse talents, to all _also_ posses the expertise needed to host their own content. Reminds me of the Dropbox launch thread here on HN a decade ago where some sysadmin chimes in with "but this is so easy for the layman to do themselves with FTP and [other technologies laypeople have never heard of]" (not an actual quote).
- CamperBob2 8y ago
  If the law were structured to make Dropbox illegal, then that particular neckbeard's observation would have been much more insightful. It seems likely that individual users are going to have to "get technical" in response to creeping authoritarianism from the EU and other powerful, unaccountable actors.
- drchaos 8y ago
  But does it really have to be that difficult? It's absolutely possible to build a system where you can deploy a docker container with a single click and host your own content on that. Add federation into the mix, and you'll get some kind of meta-Youtube or -Bandcamp, comprised of thousands of individual instances, which do not even need to be on the same hosting service. The blogosphere was similar to that, before everyone gave up and went to Facebook.

You have to host somewhere!!! Ever gotten an abuse email from the data center holding your physical hardware? I have. My tiny forum that has 50 participants max actually has a filter to prevent anyone from using the word "Elton".

phinnaeus 8y ago
It's simple, just get a static IP and host it on your home internet. Unless your ISP decides to shut you down. Then just setup your own ISP and datacenter and get your own peering agreements! /s
isostatic 8y ago
> You have to host somewhere!!! Ever gotten an abuse email from the data center holding your physical hardware? No This law does nothing to change that in any case. Get a (US law) DMCA takedown, and ignore it, job done.
- wvenable 8y ago
  No, this law changes nothing. But also hosting your own changes nothing. You can ignore a DMCA takedown but maybe your host won't. And from my experience, hosts don't care that much -- they'd rather toss you than deal with legal issues.
  - isostatic 8y ago
    Use a host that ignores the DMCA -- why would a bad american law apply to the majority of the internet? Now that americans are realising that other countries exist, and make laws like the DMCA, maybe they'll stop doing it.

phinnaeus 8y ago

I think it is completely absurd to expect every content creator, with their diverse talents, to all _also_ posses the expertise needed to host their own content. Reminds me of the Dropbox launch thread here on HN a decade ago where some sysadmin chimes in with "but this is so easy for the layman to do themselves with FTP and [other technologies laypeople have never heard of]" (not an actual quote).

CamperBob2 8y ago
If the law were structured to make Dropbox illegal, then that particular neckbeard's observation would have been much more insightful. It seems likely that individual users are going to have to "get technical" in response to creeping authoritarianism from the EU and other powerful, unaccountable actors.
drchaos 8y ago
But does it really have to be that difficult? It's absolutely possible to build a system where you can deploy a docker container with a single click and host your own content on that. Add federation into the mix, and you'll get some kind of meta-Youtube or -Bandcamp, comprised of thousands of individual instances, which do not even need to be on the same hosting service. The blogosphere was similar to that, before everyone gave up and went to Facebook.