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> The media is usually biased towards left-wing ideology, with a globalist spin. Since Macron embodies both those ideals, it's easy to see why he gets helped by

by adev_ 8y ago

> The media is usually biased towards left-wing ideology, with a globalist spin. Since Macron embodies both those ideals, it's easy to see why he gets helped by the media. Ahahah, the good joke. Most medias, everywhere world-wide are owned by billionars and follow the media-line of their owner. These guys are of course, conservative, right side, sometimes liberal .... but definitively not "left". Qualifying guys like Ruppert Murdoch, Bloomberg, Dassault or Bollore (in France) of "left" ( or the medias they own ) is as idiotic as calling Trump a communist. > I have no idea why the French would think that a banker who married his high-school teacher would be one of them. He definitely turned out NOT to be on the side of the average French citizen. Maybe because the other choice was the daughter of a old extreme right dynasty from a party funded by old nazis and negationists. Maybe.

nkkollaw 8y ago
> Ahahah, the good joke. Mmm... Can you explain the media in the US are so much against Trump--with the majority of journalists still pushing for fake news about Russian bots and government intervention even after official investigations are closed, and with some of them even crying live when the Muller investigation conclusions came out? Or, can you explain why most major news outlets in the States are categorized as biased towards left-wing causes on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com https://mediabiasfactcheck.com? > Maybe because the other choice was the daughter of a old extreme right dynasty from a party funded by old nazis and negationists. Maybe. I have no idea if that's true, but one shouldn't be punished for what his/her parents did (unless you're in North Korea I guess).
- phillnom 8y ago
  Being against Trump doesn't make them leftists.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    Yes I think it kind of does. And a few other things.
    - Juliate 8y ago
      Then you didn't understand Trump. Neither your own politics. He's using one camp against an other to distract everyone from his own business. He always did it this way.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > with the majority of journalists still pushing for fake news about Russian bots and government intervention even after official investigations are closed The official investigation confirmed—and charged specific Russian actors for—the “Russian bots and government intervention”. Even the AG Trump chose during, and for the rather transparent purpose of whitewashing, the investigation has highlighted that in his summary, stating: “The Special Counsel's investigation determined that there were two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. The first involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election. [...] The second element involved the Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election. The Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks.” [0] > with some of them even crying live when the Muller investigation conclusions came out? Arguably Mueller investigation conclusions have not “come out” in any meaningful sense, only a self-serving summary by a Trump loyalist who has a long history of opposing Presidential accountability to the law (not just for Trump.) > Or, can you explain why most major news outlets in the States are categorized as biased towards left-wing causes on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com https://mediabiasfactcheck.com? Can you provide any basis for believing the site you cite is a reliable neutral arbiter? [0] https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/read-mueller-key-findings-doj/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/read-mueller-key-fin...
- morsch 8y ago
  If you genuinely care about what's true or not, look up the largest newspapers by circulation for a couple of European countries. I've only done it for Germany and the UK; in both cases the market is dominated by conservative publications, particularly right wing tabloids. Purely on that basis, the media as consumed has a bias for being conservative and also pretty dumb (as tabloids tend to be).

by adev_ 8y ago

nkkollaw 8y ago

> Ahahah, the good joke. Mmm... Can you explain the media in the US are so much against Trump--with the majority of journalists still pushing for fake news about Russian bots and government intervention even after official investigations are closed, and with some of them even crying live when the Muller investigation conclusions came out? Or, can you explain why most major news outlets in the States are categorized as biased towards left-wing causes on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com https://mediabiasfactcheck.com? > Maybe because the other choice was the daughter of a old extreme right dynasty from a party funded by old nazis and negationists. Maybe. I have no idea if that's true, but one shouldn't be punished for what his/her parents did (unless you're in North Korea I guess).

phillnom 8y ago
Being against Trump doesn't make them leftists.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  Yes I think it kind of does. And a few other things.
  - Juliate 8y ago
    Then you didn't understand Trump. Neither your own politics. He's using one camp against an other to distract everyone from his own business. He always did it this way.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> with the majority of journalists still pushing for fake news about Russian bots and government intervention even after official investigations are closed The official investigation confirmed—and charged specific Russian actors for—the “Russian bots and government intervention”. Even the AG Trump chose during, and for the rather transparent purpose of whitewashing, the investigation has highlighted that in his summary, stating: “The Special Counsel's investigation determined that there were two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. The first involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election. [...] The second element involved the Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election. The Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks.” [0] > with some of them even crying live when the Muller investigation conclusions came out? Arguably Mueller investigation conclusions have not “come out” in any meaningful sense, only a self-serving summary by a Trump loyalist who has a long history of opposing Presidential accountability to the law (not just for Trump.) > Or, can you explain why most major news outlets in the States are categorized as biased towards left-wing causes on https://mediabiasfactcheck.com https://mediabiasfactcheck.com? Can you provide any basis for believing the site you cite is a reliable neutral arbiter? [0] https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/read-mueller-key-findings-doj/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/read-mueller-key-fin...
morsch 8y ago
If you genuinely care about what's true or not, look up the largest newspapers by circulation for a couple of European countries. I've only done it for Germany and the UK; in both cases the market is dominated by conservative publications, particularly right wing tabloids. Purely on that basis, the media as consumed has a bias for being conservative and also pretty dumb (as tabloids tend to be).