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This isn't the first time someone has claimed to have deciphered it. What's different this time?

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
My thoughts exactly. I've been on the internet for 25 years and this claim was one of the very early things I remember seeing and has popped up every 5 or 6 years since. I won't hold my breath. In fact the entirety of my knowledge of this document is as a result of reading the claims of people online who've claimed to have deciphered it. Edit just to add: Personally I think it was created as a work of art and has no hidden meaning.
- jhart99 8y ago
  You are not alone in that thought. I think it is interesting that someone at the NSA was interested in the Voynich manuscript came to about the same conclusion as you. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//dc.html?doc=5301815-National-Security-Agency-Cryptolog-Vol-2-No-8-9 https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//dc.html?doc=5301815-National-Sec...
basch 8y ago
Especially when the headline a month ago said it was a phonetic transliteration of Turkish speech, with a formal, poetic regularity. A claim which sounds much easier to prove/disprove than "a scheme mapping of letter substitution, resulting in Vulgar Latin with no grammatical and syntactical structure." http://www.openculture.com/2019/02/has-the-voynich-manuscript-finally-been-decoded.html http://www.openculture.com/2019/02/has-the-voynich-manuscrip... "Maybe that’s because everyone’s got the basic approach all wrong, seeing the Voynich’s script as a written language rather than a phonetic transliteration of speech. So says the Ardiç family, a father and sons team of Turkish researchers who call themselves Ata Team Alberta (ATA) and claim in the video above to have “deciphered and translated over 30% of the manuscript.” Father Ahmet Ardiç, an electrical engineer by trade and scholar of Turkish language by passionate calling, claims the Voynich script is a kind of Old Turkic, “written in a ‘poetic’ style,” notes Nick Pelling at the site Cipher Mysteries, “that often displays ‘phonemic orthography,’” meaning the author spelled out words the way he, or she, heard them. Ahmet noticed that the words often began with the same characters, then had different endings, a pattern that corresponds with the linguistic structure of Turkish. Furthermore, Ozan Ardiç informs us, the language of the Voynich has a “rhythmic structure,” a formal, poetic regularity. As for why scholars, and computers, have seen so many other ancient languages in the Voynich, Ahmet explains, “some of the Voynich characters are also used in several proto-European and early Semitic languages.” The Ardiç family will have their research vetted by professionals. They’ve submitted a formal paper to an academic journal at Johns Hopkins University."
- coldtea 8y ago
  >Ahmet noticed that the words often began with the same characters, then had different endings, a pattern that corresponds with the linguistic structure of Turkish. And tons of other languages...
  - pavel_lishin 8y ago
    Impossible! Improbable!

My thoughts exactly. I've been on the internet for 25 years and this claim was one of the very early things I remember seeing and has popped up every 5 or 6 years since. I won't hold my breath. In fact the entirety of my knowledge of this document is as a result of reading the claims of people online who've claimed to have deciphered it. Edit just to add: Personally I think it was created as a work of art and has no hidden meaning.

jhart99 8y ago
You are not alone in that thought. I think it is interesting that someone at the NSA was interested in the Voynich manuscript came to about the same conclusion as you. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//dc.html?doc=5301815-National-Security-Agency-Cryptolog-Vol-2-No-8-9 https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//dc.html?doc=5301815-National-Sec...

basch 8y ago

Especially when the headline a month ago said it was a phonetic transliteration of Turkish speech, with a formal, poetic regularity. A claim which sounds much easier to prove/disprove than "a scheme mapping of letter substitution, resulting in Vulgar Latin with no grammatical and syntactical structure." http://www.openculture.com/2019/02/has-the-voynich-manuscript-finally-been-decoded.html http://www.openculture.com/2019/02/has-the-voynich-manuscrip... "Maybe that’s because everyone’s got the basic approach all wrong, seeing the Voynich’s script as a written language rather than a phonetic transliteration of speech. So says the Ardiç family, a father and sons team of Turkish researchers who call themselves Ata Team Alberta (ATA) and claim in the video above to have “deciphered and translated over 30% of the manuscript.” Father Ahmet Ardiç, an electrical engineer by trade and scholar of Turkish language by passionate calling, claims the Voynich script is a kind of Old Turkic, “written in a ‘poetic’ style,” notes Nick Pelling at the site Cipher Mysteries, “that often displays ‘phonemic orthography,’” meaning the author spelled out words the way he, or she, heard them. Ahmet noticed that the words often began with the same characters, then had different endings, a pattern that corresponds with the linguistic structure of Turkish. Furthermore, Ozan Ardiç informs us, the language of the Voynich has a “rhythmic structure,” a formal, poetic regularity. As for why scholars, and computers, have seen so many other ancient languages in the Voynich, Ahmet explains, “some of the Voynich characters are also used in several proto-European and early Semitic languages.” The Ardiç family will have their research vetted by professionals. They’ve submitted a formal paper to an academic journal at Johns Hopkins University."

coldtea 8y ago
>Ahmet noticed that the words often began with the same characters, then had different endings, a pattern that corresponds with the linguistic structure of Turkish. And tons of other languages...
- pavel_lishin 8y ago
  Impossible! Improbable!