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I totally did not see this. Thank you for the warning. As I am not totally into politics, I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switze

by geff82 8y ago

I totally did not see this. Thank you for the warning. As I am not totally into politics, I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switzerland. Honestly, if they do this, I can stay where I am and take some time to investigate the situation in the US or Canada again. Of course, only it Switzerland, there can be referendums, while in the EU we totally do not have them.

nairboon 8y ago
Don't worry, if such a law would pass here in Switzerland, we'll just make a referendum to get rid of it. I'll start it myself if I have to.
Dumbdo 8y ago
If a single law makes you switch countries you should overthink that decision. It's a bad law for sure, I even joined a demonstration against it, but it's like totally on a different scale than censorship in the Iran. Please inform yourself before making such statements.
- geff82 8y ago
  I did not mean that the EU copies the brutally censored web of Iran, but that I heavily oppose any legislation that takes away any part of "free speech". Indeed having any meaningful restriction of free speech or the possibility to express it (which this legislation is about) would make me switch countries. I think that close to limitless free speech is a total base of everything. Even if other laws are really bad, like let's say death penalty, I have to have the possibility to freely speak about it to make it go away. But I can not distribute my opinion about some bad law and maybe make it go away as long as the speech itself is restricted.
toyg 8y ago
> I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switzerland Switzerland is literally surrounded by the EU, which means it has to accept most of its regulations anyway, one way or another. See the freedom-of-movement capitulation. It doesn't really matter anyway, these things sooner or later will land everywhere. The interests aligned behind are too big not to.

by geff82 8y ago

nairboon 8y ago

Don't worry, if such a law would pass here in Switzerland, we'll just make a referendum to get rid of it. I'll start it myself if I have to.

Dumbdo 8y ago

If a single law makes you switch countries you should overthink that decision. It's a bad law for sure, I even joined a demonstration against it, but it's like totally on a different scale than censorship in the Iran. Please inform yourself before making such statements.

geff82 8y ago
I did not mean that the EU copies the brutally censored web of Iran, but that I heavily oppose any legislation that takes away any part of "free speech". Indeed having any meaningful restriction of free speech or the possibility to express it (which this legislation is about) would make me switch countries. I think that close to limitless free speech is a total base of everything. Even if other laws are really bad, like let's say death penalty, I have to have the possibility to freely speak about it to make it go away. But I can not distribute my opinion about some bad law and maybe make it go away as long as the speech itself is restricted.

toyg 8y ago

> I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switzerland Switzerland is literally surrounded by the EU, which means it has to accept most of its regulations anyway, one way or another. See the freedom-of-movement capitulation. It doesn't really matter anyway, these things sooner or later will land everywhere. The interests aligned behind are too big not to.