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Why can't mobile follow the same model as desktop?

by fouc 8y ago

ucaetano 8y ago
It does, you can download an apk and install it on Android.
- Stuckinsofa 8y ago
  Don't you have to enable some kind of global special access right? So it's not the same thing.
  - ndnxhs 8y ago
    Yes, and its super hard now. When I installed the new android version the only way I could get fdroid installed was flashing it as a system app in the recovery.
  - Teknoman117 8y ago
    You have to do that on Windows and macOS now as well...
    - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
      I haven't had to enable some global setting to allow unknown programs on Windows 10. What are you referring to?
      - Teknoman117 8y ago
        Last time I did a fresh install of Windows 10 Home I had to go into Apps & features and disable "Allow apps from the Store only" in order to install Chrome. Didn't seem to have to do that on Windows 10 Pro.
em500 8y ago
The desktop distribution model was awful. I wasted many many hours in the past cleaning crapware from family PCs.
- cf141q5325 8y ago
  To be fair, complain about your family, not the desktop model. Its like babyproofing, the equivalent of no one beeing allowed to buy a steakknife because some people are not grown up enough to handle one carefully. edit: Its ofcourse a difficult subject, like with your parents getting too old to drive and not recognizing it, but after all not a technical but a societal problem.
  - lotsofpulp 8y ago
    And society fixed it by voting for the vendors that baby proofed the devices.
  - em500 8y ago
    From talks with colleagues I concluded that these issues were widespread enough to conclude that problem was not my family but the desktop distribution model.
    - cf141q5325 8y ago
      Its definitely widespread, I didnt want to imply it was just your family. There is a large group that cant handle admin rights responsibly. I just dont think general restrictions are in order here. We should much rather educate this group instead of giving up ownership over our devices. Especially since we dont have the appstore model out of security considerations, but because monopolists want to keep people in walled gardens. Ownership of your device is to great of a good to give it up in the name of security.
lotsofpulp 8y ago
Because people don’t want to spend hours uninstalling malware their devices.

Why can't mobile follow the same model as desktop?

by fouc 8y ago

Why can't mobile follow the same model as desktop?

ucaetano 8y ago

It does, you can download an apk and install it on Android.

Stuckinsofa 8y ago
Don't you have to enable some kind of global special access right? So it's not the same thing.
- ndnxhs 8y ago
  Yes, and its super hard now. When I installed the new android version the only way I could get fdroid installed was flashing it as a system app in the recovery.
- Teknoman117 8y ago
  You have to do that on Windows and macOS now as well...
  - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
    I haven't had to enable some global setting to allow unknown programs on Windows 10. What are you referring to?
    - Teknoman117 8y ago
      Last time I did a fresh install of Windows 10 Home I had to go into Apps & features and disable "Allow apps from the Store only" in order to install Chrome. Didn't seem to have to do that on Windows 10 Pro.

em500 8y ago

The desktop distribution model was awful. I wasted many many hours in the past cleaning crapware from family PCs.

cf141q5325 8y ago
To be fair, complain about your family, not the desktop model. Its like babyproofing, the equivalent of no one beeing allowed to buy a steakknife because some people are not grown up enough to handle one carefully. edit: Its ofcourse a difficult subject, like with your parents getting too old to drive and not recognizing it, but after all not a technical but a societal problem.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  And society fixed it by voting for the vendors that baby proofed the devices.
- em500 8y ago
  From talks with colleagues I concluded that these issues were widespread enough to conclude that problem was not my family but the desktop distribution model.
  - cf141q5325 8y ago
    Its definitely widespread, I didnt want to imply it was just your family. There is a large group that cant handle admin rights responsibly. I just dont think general restrictions are in order here. We should much rather educate this group instead of giving up ownership over our devices. Especially since we dont have the appstore model out of security considerations, but because monopolists want to keep people in walled gardens. Ownership of your device is to great of a good to give it up in the name of security.

lotsofpulp 8y ago

Because people don’t want to spend hours uninstalling malware their devices.