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For those of you concerned about the "antitrust" aspect here, the specter of Apple controlling everything... Keep in mind that Apple has had a partnership-based
by abalone 8y ago
For those of you concerned about the "antitrust" aspect here, the specter of Apple controlling everything... Keep in mind that Apple has had a partnership-based branded credit card for years: the Barclaycard Visa with Apple Rewards. There is nothing fundamentally new in Apple offering a credit card.
What's new here is they're tightly integrating it with Apple Wallet and in some aspects driving a better deal (like eliminating fees and points and data brokering). Overall I would characterize their offering as a "competitive" rewards card. But what's really distinctive here is the elegant Apple-designed UI around managing your spending and interest charges and rewards, which looks exceptional.
The other really clever thing is how they've leveraged the iPhone to improve the security of the backwards-compatible physical card. For non-ApplePay e-commerce they can rotate the CSC/CVV number you look up on your phone (since it's not printed on the card). And they can just reach out to you through iOS with suspicious transaction notifications and strongly re-authenticate you, instead of relying on antiquated robocalls.
One question I have is whether the card will have a stripe on it or just a chip. Traditionally merchants would be liable for fraudulent swipes without properly-checked signatures. If the signatureless card supports swipes, presumably Goldman Sachs would need to take on that liability now. Maybe that explains why rewards are 1% on physical card transactions instead of 2%.
- atonse 8y agoIt does have a stripe. In the video you see the (very tastefully done) stripe on the top on the back.
- abalone 8y agoOk thanks, and to follow up I forgot that liability for swipes shifted to merchants a couple years ago regardless of signatures. That is, if a customer has a chip card and the merchant runs it as a swipe then they’re liable regardless of whether the signature matches. Having said that, that doesn’t mean every issuer is going to come after merchants for this fraud... it’s typically the little mom and pops that haven’t fully migrated to EMV chip terminals. So maybe the lower rewards gives Goldman Sachs more leeway to be nice.
- newman314 8y agoDoes anyone know if the Apple Card is dependent on iCloud being enabled?