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For all you know he is controlled opposition. There is little reason to believe that the contents of these cables aren't already known to other governments, gi

For all you know he is controlled opposition. There is little reason to believe that the contents of these cables aren't already known to other governments, given that many soldiers from the rank of private on up had access to them; and that the UK, France, Israel, Germany, etc. also do extensive signals intelligence, crypto, and even good old fashioned human based spying.

grandalf 16y ago
Very true. I can't believe this point hasn't been raised elsewhere. The information has probably not been secret since it was made available to the wider audience after 9/11.
- trop 16y ago
  While I wouldn't claim this is a reliable source, you could check out Dave Emory on Assange (http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-damned/ http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-d... and http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-725-leak-this-wiki-spooks-and-the-world-of-stieg-larsson/ http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-725-leak-this-wik...). Emory tries to connect Assange, the Swedish Pirate Party, a Nazi conspiracy, western intelligence agencies, and an Australian brainwashing cult of bleach-blond children. He also points to an interestingly dyspeptic cnet interview "Wikileaks' estranged co-founder becomes a critic" (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html) with the founder of cryptome.org who (news to me) helped cofound Wikileaks.
rtra 16y ago
And the realization of this really undermines the assumption that these leaks threaten the US national security. These could have been leaked privately to an enemy just as easily - how worse would that be?
secret 16y ago
While I don't think it's the case, I do think it would be a brilliant strategy. The NYT article on the Iran negotiations seems rather helpful to the US, but nothing that could ever be said officially (especially the positions of other nations).

grandalf 16y ago

Very true. I can't believe this point hasn't been raised elsewhere. The information has probably not been secret since it was made available to the wider audience after 9/11.

trop 16y ago
While I wouldn't claim this is a reliable source, you could check out Dave Emory on Assange (http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-damned/ http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-d... and http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-725-leak-this-wiki-spooks-and-the-world-of-stieg-larsson/ http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-725-leak-this-wik...). Emory tries to connect Assange, the Swedish Pirate Party, a Nazi conspiracy, western intelligence agencies, and an Australian brainwashing cult of bleach-blond children. He also points to an interestingly dyspeptic cnet interview "Wikileaks' estranged co-founder becomes a critic" (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html) with the founder of cryptome.org who (news to me) helped cofound Wikileaks.

rtra 16y ago

And the realization of this really undermines the assumption that these leaks threaten the US national security. These could have been leaked privately to an enemy just as easily - how worse would that be?

secret 16y ago

While I don't think it's the case, I do think it would be a brilliant strategy. The NYT article on the Iran negotiations seems rather helpful to the US, but nothing that could ever be said officially (especially the positions of other nations).