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No it isn't possible. But if you're married (or cohabitating) it is possible for one of you to focus on wealth creation and the other to focus on supplying edib

No it isn't possible. But if you're married (or cohabitating) it is possible for one of you to focus on wealth creation and the other to focus on supplying edibles such that you both have a good quality of life and reasonably self sufficient food production. The things you can't produce will be flour, sugar, spices (salt, pepper, Etc.) and will need to import, but with a flock of chickens and a dairy cow, and roughly 5 acres of land you can provide everything else. As I recall the Firefox survivalist series gave a pretty complete recipe for what you needed. You can substitute goats for the cow if you are ok with getting your milk, cheese, and meat that way. I don't recall if there was a purely vegetarian or vegan recipe.

sokoloff 8y ago
What percentage of the world’s population is in a position to buy 5 acres of arable land and have half the couple tend to the farming full-time? 1 in 10,000? Less?
- JoeAltmaier 8y ago
  Maybe a lot? Acres of farmland are pretty cheap. I takes only a mobile home to live there. Well, plus a well and septic tank. Maybe $25K?
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    As a Fermi problem, to try to understand the overall scale, I was intrigued to learn that there’s about the same number of arable acres of land as people in the world. Naturally, neither of these things is evenly distributed. In the place where my well-paying job is, it would be difficult for us to afford 5 arable acres on one locally top 5% income within a reasonable commute to my work.
    - ChuckMcM 8y ago
      You are conflating the terms "possible" and "practical" :-) There are communication technologies today that have made this more practical. 10 Gigabit microwave links are a thing these days. That said, there are a lot of variables. Community gardens, barter systems, and others which once you open up the problem to the question "can a community be self sufficient" you get into village design. [1] https://www.cablefree.net/cablefree-millimeter-wave-mmw/10g/ https://www.cablefree.net/cablefree-millimeter-wave-mmw/10g/

sokoloff 8y ago

What percentage of the world’s population is in a position to buy 5 acres of arable land and have half the couple tend to the farming full-time? 1 in 10,000? Less?

JoeAltmaier 8y ago
Maybe a lot? Acres of farmland are pretty cheap. I takes only a mobile home to live there. Well, plus a well and septic tank. Maybe $25K?
- sokoloff 8y ago
  As a Fermi problem, to try to understand the overall scale, I was intrigued to learn that there’s about the same number of arable acres of land as people in the world. Naturally, neither of these things is evenly distributed. In the place where my well-paying job is, it would be difficult for us to afford 5 arable acres on one locally top 5% income within a reasonable commute to my work.
  - ChuckMcM 8y ago
    You are conflating the terms "possible" and "practical" :-) There are communication technologies today that have made this more practical. 10 Gigabit microwave links are a thing these days. That said, there are a lot of variables. Community gardens, barter systems, and others which once you open up the problem to the question "can a community be self sufficient" you get into village design. [1] https://www.cablefree.net/cablefree-millimeter-wave-mmw/10g/ https://www.cablefree.net/cablefree-millimeter-wave-mmw/10g/