This talk is all well and good between us here on Hackernews but I don't think your Joe Plumber really cares that these things are going on behind the curtains

This talk is all well and good between us here on Hackernews but I don't think your Joe Plumber really cares that these things are going on behind the curtains enough to vote about them, protest, or write his congressman. Look at the "uproar" Snowden caused - it just pushed these activities further under ground within US cyber intelligence.